narwhalMozilla opposes Web Integrity API proposal
What is the web integrity API?
It’s an API for web integrity. Thank me later
spidermancan you explain this further? what does this integrate that’s not yet integrated in web?
deejay4amIt makes sure you’re running an approved browser with an approved OS on approved hardware and Google controls it all.
Basically, say goodbye to Adblock, video downloaders, startup search engines, accessibility tools, and Linux.
Or more accurately, the rest of us will simply fork the Internet itself.
Basically drm for your browser
Fuck that though
Bappitythis is the most batshit insane proposal I hope nobody supports it
if google microsoft and apple support it, that already covers over 90% of the market
Don’t worry, people will certainly make bypasses for that shit
that’s exactly what people said with manifest V3 then all the sudden they were getting strikes on youtube for having their ad blocker on
And how well did that work out? I personally haven’t gotten any strike on youtube, using uBlock/mpv on PC, Youtube Revanced on mobile and SmartTube for TV since forever
Also there’s this invidious.io. So yeah, it’s just the classic cat & mouse game that has been going on for ever since software added drm
LinkOpensChest.wavGoogle has already lashed out at Invidious though, and they’ll keep trying
I agree that in most cases people can find workarounds, but I don’t think we should take these things for granted
Google has no ground to stand on against Invidious
They may harass them but it’ll be veeery difficult to chase down all instances
Oh, I’m well aware of that, but I also have little faith in the justice system to recognize this
In any case, it seems like a warning shot from Google and an interest in taking down sites like Invidious
I’m not trying to spread doubt, but I also think complacency is dangerous, especially given the history of corporate giants like Google
Steamrolling this change is incredably bright lines it would destablize trust in anything that agrees with it. If the amrican court doesnt prosecute. It will eather show the ignorance/lies in others or destablize amarican trust in the law.
We’re talking about a public and justice system that mostly agreed the Patriot Act was a good idea and that ICE protects us from terrorism
Anyone who hasn’t already lost trust America and our law has been sleeping for decades
and what kinda of thing does this protect?
I’d guess it’s first gonna be used for streaming TV shows and such. After that it’ll probably be used for absurd things
I’d guess it’s first gonna be used for streaming TV shows
I thought they were already being protected by DRM.
Kinda, but it doesn’t work very well. Using video download manager you can download pretty much every video from the web
Can you recommend me one that can be used to download DRM protected content from OTT platforms such as Netflix, Amazon Prime and Mubi? Might well as archive the content I watch.
Sadly I can’t, netflix won’t let me watch anything on Librewolf/Firefox on linux. I’d recommend looking into getting a good proxy, a Jellyfin server and also the *arr stack (Sonarr, etc…)
by proxy, do you mean a vpn?
Yes, personally I use ProtonVPN. Iirc they don’t care about copyright laws because they don’t really apply in their country, I might be wrong though
Also make sure your ip doesn’t get leaked by your torrent client
I have been using PIA for sometime. Has port forwarding and have been liking it so far.
Don’t know about that one, you can check for IP address leaks here ipleak.net
Also browserleaks.com is pretty useful
And last but not least, inform yourself if PIA is trustworthy, some VPN providers gave information about their users to the police
Ads. To be precise this on it’s own provides a way for servers to be certain of the environment the pages run (browser, plugins, os). Protecting ads or other functions come from servers refusing unattested configurations or configurations they don’t like (i.e. running adblock, running firefox, running linux).
if chrome fully adapts this, this might well be a full blown commerical by chrome for people to switch to firefox. i have been only using chrome only to run our projects locally and test it out.
baltakateiIt should be noted that “being certain of the environment the pages run” requires controlling the client software being executed which requires preventing the user from modifying said executable which requires the browser to either be closed source or, more effectively, controlling the user’s hardware via blackbox verification chips (e.g. TPM DRM). It’s not just advertisers that would benefit but any website that wants to DRM content.
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Notice they are DRMing text and computer code, WSJ and malware brokers are gonna really happy, everyone else had their DRM fix with multimedia
Some fucking greedy cunts at Google having a vision of internet being accessible only by “approved”(Chrome) browsers/clients.
They want to approve the whole environment, including os, even if virtualized or not
kevincoxThe whole stack will need to be approved. approved browser running on approved OS on approved hardware. Good luck browsing on Linux. The end of user software choice.
shrugalA system for websites to request a proof of the “integrity” of a user’s browser and underlying OS/hardware, and “attesters” to check this “integrity” and provide the proof.
Google would of course be one of the major “attesters”, and could just deny the proof if you installed an ad blocker or VPN for example. In this case you would likely not be able to access the website anymore, because your device is deemed as “untrustworthy”.
So it’s a way for big companies to decide who can still use big parts of the internet and who can’t, based on whether it would make them money.
ThaNookLmaoevery day that passes we are closer to the day using TOR is not an option.
Orwellian doublespeak for DRMing the web.
If only Firefox would have a bigger userbase. I still use it, but the vast majority of people is on Chromium.
I switched this week.
GoodKingElliotI’m switching today. Right now. Because of this post.
^^maybe
It’ll cost you nothing at all.
Please switch
Install ublock origin and open YouTube.
You won’t regret it.
fantastic. Also, just so you don’t have all that “YoU hAvE tHrEe ViDeOs LeFt” BS copy paste this to the “my filters” tab (go to about:addons, click on uBlock, there dots, “preferences”, then “my filters”) and you should be good to go:
youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false) youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0) youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, []) youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true)Also here is another that blocks shorts entirely:
www.youtube.com##ytd-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-guide-entry-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-mini-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-item-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-grid-video-renderer,ytd-rich-item-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-search .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-video-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="trending"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-search .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-rich-shelf-renderer[is-shorts] www.youtube.com##ytd-reel-shelf-renderer m.youtube.com##ytm-reel-shelf-renderer m.youtube.com##ytm-pivot-bar-renderer div.pivot-shorts:upward(ytm-pivot-bar-item-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-search ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer,ytm-video-with-context-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-single-column-watch-next-results-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer span:has-text(/^(0:\d\d|1:0\d)$/):upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer) youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row, #contents.ytd-rich-grid-row:style(display:contents !important;)AND REMEMBER TO CLICK “APPLY CHANGES” BEFORE LEAVING!
And I’m just gonna drop this right here for those who use Twitch
ChrisFheyNo maybes. Do it.
If it would help with the transition, Firefox has a first time install option to move over all of your bookmarks. A super cool reason to have a firefox account is the ability to transfer a tab from one device to another. Best part is that Firefox isn’t profit motivated like Chrome so there’s much less bullshit to deal with
Thanks, I’ve done it!
I found out you can import not only bookmarks from Chrome, but also passwords, history and autofill data!
slowbyrneI highly recommend putting your passwords in a paid manager. Bitwarden is awesome. I’m also testing out Protonpass which just came out. If you’re looking to move more services from google to an alternative, give Proton a look. Been running their email, calendar, and VPN and I’ve been pleased. Its still missing a few things but its improving everyday.
smokinjoeI use firefox as my sidearm browser on my work computer, but I literally just made it the default on my personal computer
Firefox is awesome now. It was great, then it lost out a bit to chrome, but it’s back to being awesome. If anyone’s reading this and isn’t using Firefox, please switch!
And importantly, their import mechanisms are great. A typical user can switch with basically no effort. Next time they ask you for help, switch your parents too, and your siblings, and that neighbour who keeps referring to the internet as “the google”. Set them up with Firefox and ublock origin and they’ll be set.
it’s back to being awesome
What changed?
Depends on what you mean by “when”. From my POV for the last few years, it has an amazing plugin ecosystem (almost complete interoperability with Chrome’s), a revamped/minimal UI, performance optimizations, a better DX for web devs than Chrome, and an active R&D (Firefox View, new plugins button, better personalization, etc). I’m missing a few things but those are the ones that stand out to me.
I’d solely use Firefox if jetbrains had better JS debugging support for it.
So for now I use edge for that at work.
Also I really like the tab sleep and vertical tabs features on Edge.
But everything is Firefox on my personal machines
sabMozilla is such a treasure.
We must plunder the treasure so no one else can have it!
Oh, wait
The treasure is being bankrolled by google, so I mean it’s someone’s Treasure that’s for sure.
I’ll take my enemies money any day and use it against them.