i think a lot about how apparently, someone visiting pink floyd's studio in the mid-70s noticed they had several minimoogs set up with gaffer tape all over them, because when they got a sound they liked, they'd put the tape over the knobs so the settings wouldn't get changed, and invoice the record label for another fresh minimoog. i think this is how you're actually supposed to manage python software installations, just buy a new computer every time you finally get the correct packages set up

@jk @fwaggle Haha, the curse of multiple projects on the same computer. Now imagine running a webserver with virtual hosts with all different versions of PHP and PHP modules required.

On #FreeBSD it got resolved in the early 2000s by using lightweight jails, while #Linux land was going "VMs is the way to go (and then you suddenly had N+1 problems)".

@mavetju @jk @fwaggle Solaris had containers. Very easy to manage.
@mavetju @jk @fwaggle Nah, webservers are easy. Don't fuss around with virtual host or containers. Just fork off new Apache instance at a different port. Configfile is simple, no sudo involved. I don't understand why so many PHP people depend on distribution Apache.