YoBuckStopsHereJul 25, 2023

Go Woke, Go Broke? Barbie’s Opening Weekend Sales Smash Expectations

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Go Woke, Go Broke? Barbie’s Opening Weekend Sales Smash Expectations - Lemmy.world

The far right is constantly warning that if you go woke, you’ll go broke. But when it comes to the new Barbie movie, they couldn’t be more wrong. Barbie, which follows Barbie (Margot Robbie) and Ken (Ryan Gosling) as they leave Barbie Land to explore the real world, earned a whopping $162 million in its opening weekend, Variety reported Monday. This is the biggest opening weekend of the year, and the biggest opening weekend for a female director ever. The film had already made $22.3 million at the domestic box office from Thursday previews, the biggest preview haul of the summer. It blew the previous record of $17.5 million (made by Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 in May) out of the water.

Show threadicepuncher69Jul 25, 2023
Now ler me start by sayong that i recomend barbie very much, that being said, im gonna get ravaged by you people cuz i didnt think barbie was a woke film. Already saw it and while yes its message is feminist, its not shoehorned, doesnt try to pander to audiences with forced diversity where it doesnt make sense, its very self aware, has good writing in that it has well writen characters and they and the plot dobt feel like the writers wish fullfilment ,and the message at end isnt even that left leaning imho since it doesnt dive that much on a certaing thing i thought they were hinting at and seems tobbe aware of it but at the end it doesnt really, thought i may be wrong on the end part since thats more on a personal level to me and i wont discus it here due to spoilers.
Show thread𝕽𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖙

I think you are using a very right-wing definition of “woke” to make your point here.

It feels like you are saying that something can’t be “woke” without that having a negative connotation, which isn’t really the meaning of Woke outside of those conservative circles.

I would counter that if you use the more traditional definition (as I think was the spirit of the OP) then it takes on a much broader meaning that isn’t definitively negative or positive (though it is typically seen as positive in progressive circles)

In that case I think it’s more than fair to call this movie “woke” as it is specifically dealing with a long-standing traditional product (stereotypical gender norms/etc in Barbie dolls) and coming at it with a more modern progressive angle.

Jul 25, 2023 at 4:19amWeb
Show threadicepuncher69Jul 25, 2023
If you whana go original woke, then its meaning its outside the scope of this since it refers to african americans: Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning “alert to racial prejudice and discrimination” and it was used as a catch it all term for… well… woke things. And its true, my definition is more of a negative conotation, since its the more used whe making a critisism on media since thats where i know it from and thats how i thend to see it being used on. And i think that analizing the word itself itself is kinda pointless since i was refering more to the forced elements (mostly political) media inserts into itself for apeal to broader demograpics and subsides from investors. And now im not saying media isnt political, just that they thend to be forced into a topic that they wherent even concidering on the begining. And if you whana use the term “Woke” with your definition then go more power to ya, but be aware that its meaning is diferent outside your content sphere. Im not conservative,i heard the therm in that negative connotation in other places that where very anti stablishment or in other words very left leaning and leftis outside the USA and away from american political discourse.
Show threadWarmSodaJul 25, 2023
Yeah I told my father that’s what woke means and he finally shut up. He’s got mixed grandchildren that are his world, so he thankfully came off the ledge a little that day.
Show threadassassin_aragornJul 25, 2023

I saw an article the other day about a former Republican congressman who’s trying something similar. Her son is trans and she supports him wholeheartedly, and she’s talking with former colleagues in private about how the trans hate is incompatible with loving their children.

No idea if it’ll work. There was a comment about how mob mentality is a huge problem.

Show threadNuPNuAJul 25, 2023
I think you need to accept that you’ve lost control of the word. It means something different to most people in society now whether right wing or not.
Show threadicepuncher69Jul 25, 2023
Yup. Thats what people have being arguing about the most to me.
Show threadNuPNuAJul 25, 2023
From my observation, a lot of the culture war issues of the modern era have come from a different usage of language. I remember the whole arguments a few years back about what “racism” means as some people were using the academic “power and privilege” definition while the rest of the world were still using the standard dictionary definition.
Show threadicepuncher69Jul 25, 2023
Based and remember that america isnt the only one country in the world pilled.
Show threadNuPNuAJul 25, 2023
Oh yeah, for all their talk of diversity and inclusion, American progressives are amazingly ignorant of the world outside their own nation.
Show threadFugicaraJul 25, 2023

No it doesn’t. It means the same thing to most people that it has always meant.

ipsos.com/…/americans-divided-whether-woke-compli…

The right just has so much insane propaganda about it that you’ve been convinced most people fell for it, which they haven’t.

Show threadNuPNuAJul 25, 2023
Yeah, quoting American stats to me is meaningless in the UK.
Show threadFugicaraJul 25, 2023
That’s cool, you should specify from the onset that your experience comes from a place outside of the actual country where the “woke” culture war originated and is mainly happening, and you should still link stats to demonstrate that the majority of people there have a misunderstanding of what the word means like you claimed. Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, and most people in the country driving the “woke” culture war still know what the word means.