I Fell Down the Alt-Right Rabbit Hole. Eventually, I Climbed My Way Out.

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/1227496

I Fell Down the Alt-Right Rabbit Hole. Eventually, I Climbed My Way Out. - Blåhaj Lemmy

Because the right-wing saturation of platforms like YouTube was so central to my becoming a reactionary, I believe that creating a competing left-wing presence in online spaces should be a priority for the Left. Currently, conservatives enjoy a nearly unchallenged role in grabbing young men who may very well be supportive of progressive movements, but whose lack of community drives them away from collective politicking. This needs to change.

It’s really refreshing to see a suggestion for how to help solve the right-wing rabbit hole problem other than just blaming “education” and saying it needs to be fixed (not that I think fixing education isn’t the answer, I just don’t think that it is the only answer). Something I’ve been asking myself since the 2016 election is, what the hell are we going to do about what is happening to our society that is turning people towards hate, bigotry, selfishness and cruelty? Sure, we can try to educate people, but there will always be folks that turn away from public education. Additionally, here’s only a fraction of us who attend some form of higher education that might expose us to information that might bring some out of a selfish world view. Meanwhile, all that right wing content has flooded the internet, just waiting to enthrall folks who don’t have direction.

Fighting back by introducing an equal (or even greater?) amount of content that opposes hateful ideology is not a bad idea at all as a method to try and catch these folks before they fall into these dark rabbit holes.

the left isn't unified enough to ever do this.

i'm a progressive leftist type... and half the time i feel alienated from my own politics because so much of it is basically anti-male anti-white hate jerking where i am told htat anything i may say is oppressive to those of 'marginalized identities'.

i can tell you that NOBODY wants me involved in anything anymore. even my own social groups have taken to being like ‘we have too many white men, they are bad, we need to attract more people of color and women and trans people because they are special and good by default and white men are bad by default’. it’s infuriating and depressing that i’m basically told to f off when I want to contribute to my community.

I don’t doubt that you find the left’s current politic alienating in and of itself (lord knows it can be bewildering), but I have SERIOUS doubts that reality is anything like what you’re describing here. I’m a gun-toting, outdoor-type leftist whose predominantly queer/non-white friends (I live in a big city) always find me more of a novelty than a threat. They look at me like through the walls of a fishbowl, unable to understand a lot of what I believe but also appreciative that I’m an ally on core issues that matter to them. Not once has anyone ever looked at me or any of my other cis white male friends and told them to fuck off unless it’s someone coming in with a chip on their shoulder who feels like they need to prove something by being a confrontational asshole. I suggest you reflect less on what you feel like people believe about you when you’re not around and more on how they treat you when you are. They’re not nearly as threatened or upset by you as you think.

and that is just like… insta banned/hated if that ever comes up from my leftist people. who are typically upper middle class people pretending to be working-class for fun.

The way you phrase this tells me you’re gleaning many of your conclusions from online spaces, rather than face-to-face real life. That’s probably why you feel the way you do. I actually have serious doubts that you have any meaningful personal relationships with leftists who aren’t cartoons or provocateurs. Perhaps the way you’re received online has to do with the fact that your stories are so over-the-top and on-the-nose as to seem deliberately hyperbolic.

Not sure if that comment is genuine or not but you are essentially calling commenter a bad actor, which was literally his complaint to start with lol

That’s because he’s using pretty much every trope/straw man that we have come to see from bad actors. He starts off with the classic “As a leftist…” then goes on to lament his social group becoming too woke, then finishes strong by declaring that he is just a working class Joe that actual leftists wouldn’t understand.

So I’ll say it. He IS a bad actor.

Did you review his comment history? Is he not entitled to his opinion?
No. Are you not reading? Unless he conforms to societal expectations, he don’t get none

Is he not entitled to his opinion?

Everyone else is also entitled to their opinion that he’s acting in bad faith.

Not once has anyone ever looked at me or any of my other cis white male friends and told them to fuck off unless it’s someone coming in with a chip on their shoulder who feels like they need to prove something by being a confrontational asshole.

nah i’m just an asshole … one thing i cam sure of is that whatever views i have tend to piss everyone off, left, right, or center.

Sounds like I was right all along.

Longtime Lemmy Users: aside from sheer size, do you feel like the site has changed since the influx of reddit refugees, and if so, how? - Lemmy.world

I’ve not been here long, but I’m curious how users who were present before the reddit drama feel about any potential changes to the content and tone of discussions.

How do these quotes prove u/[email protected] is a bad actor?

I reviewed his comment history, just another clown with opinions like the rest here...

How do these quotes prove u/[email protected] is a bad actor?

I didn’t say they do. My charge was that either he was lying, or he’s an asshole. He proved the latter.

I reviewed his comment history, just another clown with opinions like the rest here…

Ok?