ickplantThe reward
StrikerPretty sure climate change is already here.
That, unfortunately, is true.
oursYep, have to do all those things all the while it’s too hot/humid/cold/wet/dry in some wild random combination.
lohrunDead end low paying job with no benefits while suffering major burnout, ayo gottem
██████████i got to eat a piece of pork stomach this weekend 😔
dylanTheDeveloperI’ve had two servings of soylant green as a treat
ButtersWhat’s wrong with pork stomach? Check out moneybags over here with his fancy bacon.
ivanafterallSomebody's got a case of the Mondays! Have you tried being more mindful?
Jim“Kid, don’t you want to work hard and be able to retire in a nice beach house like mine?”
“But your house is isn’t on a beach…”
“By the time you retire, it will be. And it’ll be worth so much then.”
I actually think about this. All those houses that are streets away from the beach are going to make so much more in the future because the beach will move.
I know someone who bought a flat which likely be flooded in 40 years time.
I also know people in California.
Now I’m picturing more typical one story ranch style houses lining the beaches instead of the usual mcmansion monstrosities that block the view for everyone else. Nice.
Sounds like the people who bought those houses are streets ahead.
Been there, coined that.
Look at this beautiful view of debris!
All my friends and coworkers didn’t start a family until their 30s. Unless their parents were rich and therefore were immune to challenges in life.
MinnesotaGoddamHaha, my parents are rich but they hate me, so only my siblings got their financial beneficence. Then when dad died, the siblings fucked off and we moved in to help him with end of life stuff, so we get the house. Funny how that works.
It’s winter where I live. Temperature should be around 10ºC but some places registered 30ºC. And this week we’ll have our 4th hurricane of 2023. My house is old and I fear soon I’ll wake up without a roof.
My anxiety is so bad today. I keep trying to find new ways to deal with it, meds, meditation, exercise, but how the fuck am I supposed to keep up?
Thats the neat part. You don’t
That’s your choice. Here is what I did:
- got a job in IT (relatively high paying field)
- moved to a city in a temperate climate with low cost of living
- lived in a cheap apartment while I saved money to buy a home
- bought a home
- got a therapist
- responsible spending habits (limit amount of take out food (doordash), alcohol, and general consumption with a high cost but little value). For what some of my friends spend on ubereats in 1 week, I can feed myself for a month.
And you don’t even see how that’s maybe not an option for everyone.
It doesn’t have to be an answer that’s for everybody
Wow, thanks for giving us a TED talk. You’re such an inspiration to others.
trainsaresexytldr high paying job, low COL area. Not everyone can work in IT. I’d say most people don’t want to, other than the pay it sucks.
I
- work in IT
- lived at home to save money
- bought a small condo
- no other debts
- therapist
- crazy high COL
- always frugal
- am stressed
The world is not ending, this is a very slow rolling problem. And humans will solve it for sure. Worst case scenario, quality of life goes down a bit but it would still be much higher than what the average human experienced for 99.9% of our history.
Quality of life will go down massively for less developed countries. Remember when literally 1/3 of Pakistan was under water? These people had quite low QoL.
Tell me you don’t understand the implications of climate change without telling me you don’t understand the implications of climate change. If you think food and water shortages that put 80-90% of the world’s population at risk of death and simultaneously destroys global economic flows humanity has become reliant on is better quality of life than ever you are dillusenial.
It's not that bad.
I won’t argue about the science because there’s no argument left for that, but if you think money or technology is a magic formula that will shield us from climate change you’re putting a lot of faith in something with very little certainty.
We can do amazing thing when we are united and determined. I trust that as the situation gets worse humanity will rise up to the task.
ThatWeirdGuy1001“Many of you will die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make”
Lol. Well how many people would die if we stopped using fossil fuels? In the end we'll have to rely on technology to fix this.
We have the technology. Nuclear power can save the planet.
There is no will to put in the work.
Unfortunately, it’s too late to change people’s minds now that they’ve grown up thinking nuclear power is the devil.
“It’s easier to fool a man than to convince him he’s been fooled.”
How do we make it safe with the rise of natural disasters? Nuclear meltdowns are bad for us and the environment.
I’m really looking forward to advancements in nuclear fusion.
Fusion could still take decades, or maybe never happen at all. Modern fission reactor designs are already more than safe enough. We can’t afford to wait any longer.
You’re right. But I don’t get how people can’t see the risk. No matter how many controls you put in place, how safe you make it, there’s always a chance. And if that happens, we face a nuclear meltdown which will make the place and nearby locations uninhabitable for hundreds of years. I don’t know if controls even exist to prevent a meltdown caused by an earthquake or tornado/hurricane.
What is preferrable: a tiny chance to make a small area (Chernobyl-size is impossible with modern reactors) uninhabitable or a guarantee to make the entire planet uninhabitable?
Fusion is perhaps better, but not ready. We’re out of time, and doing nothing new guarantees death for all.
Modern nuclear reactors, especially ones not trying to turn a profit, and be made extremely safe in almost any environment. Investment in solar and wind is good too, but they can’t handle the current loads needed to keep things working.
Even something as simple as requiring all new construction be outfitted with solar panels would be a step forward, but politics and money will be the death of us all. Literally.
I'm all for nuclear power. What I meant more is about removing the excess greenhouse gasses from the atmosphere.
NepentheMaybe more like...goes down a bit in well-developed countries, in areas that are not already prone to natural disasters. We're already losing people to the heatwave again. Last year, Europe lost a little over 61k, this year it's 3 entire degrees below that. Heat waves are natural and would be happening regardless. Climate change makes them leagues worse than they would have been.
Areas like Ireland that get a lot of rain are experiencing a dangerous amount of flooding. Areas in the middle east that typically only see rain during the monsoon season are experiencing an even dryer, hotter dry season followed by a much stronger rain that causes increasingly destructive flash floods.
Myself, personally, I live in an area that is typically protected from the worst weather. We do get snow, but most of it ends up being waylaid by the mountains and I feel sorry for those who live there rather than in the plains. The area does get at least one hurricane every year, but it's deflected by the coastline of the Outer Banks and I have no idea what kind of person still wants to live there, but they're a trooper as well.
Hurricane Florence in 2018 was the first time in my life I have ever seen a hurricane come this far inland, and they are continuing to do so. For obvious reasons, I do not like this.
The earth isn't going to shut off like a simulation tomorrow, it is just going to be a slow and steady burn. Which is the biggest reason nobody is doing anything about it -- we're wired for immediate threats and the human race is currently the boiling frog, acclimating to their new life in whatever happens to happen.
You would seem to suggest it's a matter of an annoying loss of comfort, and it's already not that for millions of people. Rising oceans and harsher cyclones blowing seawater inland have turned the soil and water supplies in Bangladesh increasingly salty. Enough that the salt-water resistant mangrove trees the area is famous for are experiencing a shift in biodiversity as those species with a lower tolerance are beaten out by more resilient competitors.
Available drinking water is hard to come by and repeatedly bathing in saltwater causes miserable full-body rashes. Building farms on floating river rafts is an older technique that addresses the flooding a bit, but the salinity of the water and worsening heat are still having their impact.
That's a great post. I can't add much to it, a lot of that info is new to me.
I think that could be understandable, to be honest. Even just this (apart from where I live) is all stuff I came across scrolling news articles or random tweets. It's not something I go out of my way to look for every day. Why? Because it makes me feel really bad and there's nothing I can really do about it. If I could chuck a lemonade over there or ask people to kindly stop drone striking each other, I would. All it accomplishes is causing me more hopelessness than what I already have.
Which is likely why a lot of other people don't devote a lot of research to it either. It takes a very specific person to voluntarily devote yourself to feeling really really bad, and that kind of interest in events only spreads to the masses when it's unavoidably happening to them. It's not anywhere close to idyllic, but most of human nature isn't and (especially in the face of the internet) we end up whittling things down to our own personal well-being in order to make it manageable.
Humans will solve it?!? LMAO like how we all got together to kill off COVID? Instead of just making it a political problem?
Naw dude, humanity will never ever work together again. If aliens invaded half of y’all be making deals with em so they eat you last.
In case anyone is wondering, no one is going to announce that the worker’s revolution has begun. No one is planning it. The vast majority of people in North America don’t believe climate change is real. To believe in an existential threat to humanity is to attempt to do something about it on a grassroots level. Start getting everyone you know to understand what’s at stake. Fuck if they think you’re being annoying or dramatic. The alternative is we all die at our post/desk/cash register of heat stroke or starvation.
Do you have a source for this? I know that this is anecdotal, but even here in rural north GA, people tend to know that it is real.The one thing hanging by a thread is people denying that humans are the cause, and even the most uneducated are thinking, “Well, maybe.”
My advice is to live your life as best as you can without worrying too much about things you can’t control. Try and build a life around yourself that’ll help you be happy through it all, regardless of what happens. Enjoy your 20’s. 30’s are good too and 40’s don’t suck either.
To paraphrase Sun Tzu: do not choose a path to victory. Instead, choose a strategy such that all paths lead to victory.
And don’t have kids.
Don’t want em to suffer worse shit down the road.
Have kids if you want. It’s just insane to me to plan your entire life and make major decisions on a cataclysm that may or may not even occur in your lifetime; and it (climate change) may present in ways that we can’t even imagine now.
This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥May not even occur? Mate, it is occurring right fucking now.
Seriously. This isn’t the bible where people prophitized the world will end in 130ad. We are in it now. This is happening, and educated people have been warning everyone about it.
*Bible apocalypse year estimated
The world won’t end, it will be kinda shit to live in.
I’m not saying the world will end. Just that this time the horrible thing that people have been warning about is actually happening.
When the supply chain breaks down, see what happens.
You thought COVID toilet paper was bad, lol
Maybe we don’t wanna live in a shit world? I have standards ffs.
Yeah you’re right, it’s game over for the human species, don’t bother having kids, might as well just shoot yourself right now.
Damn dude didn’t take long to throw out the “KYS” card, huh? Spoken like a goddamn bot. This is why we refer to you people as NPCs because everything you say is so goddamn predictable. You do not even have an ounce of original thought in you
Next is go touch grass… no wait you did that already, so why don’t you skip to the calling me a LibCuck and fuck off already, hmm?