useragent13What can we do to prevent nazism?
FlaxIf you’re american, use your second ammendment
I don’t agree with the second amendment. I think that we should remove it from the constitution
LuhimeWiredArmed minorities are harder to oppress.
I’ve always felt that the quickest way to overcome the Second Amendment; would be to heavily arm POC and have them exercise that right by peaceful walks through white neighborhoods
BombOmOmRoof Koreans are seen as the pinnacle in 2A communities. When the police abandoned them, they ensured their persons and livelihoods were safe.
This has been tried. Unfortunately enforcement of laws (or rights) has been historically extremely uneven. Ask the Black Panthers.
Voting, healthy debate, and standard self-defense practices should cover it.
Voting
I specifically mentioned in my post, besides generic things like voting
hEaLtHy DeBaTe
“If you have 9 men at a table and they welcome 1 Nazi, then there are 10 Nazis at the table”
We have been through all this before. Believing that you can “change hearts and minds” means that you’re willing to sacrifice the rest of us to preserve people who have shown they patently don’t deserve it.
Bigots have agency, they choose to be awful people every single day. You admit that this is the case, because you think you can change their minds (you cannot). Ten people in Buffalo are dead because people like you thought they could change a mind, rather than ensuring a Nazi didn’t do something terrible by whatever means necessary.
The shooter had literally been investigated for having illegal firearms before. People like you thought “he’s just a kid, he’ll change.” And he did. For the worse.
Instead of getting mandated counseling or even thrown in a psyche ward they let him plan a mass shooting and kill ten people who were just trying to go to the grocery store.
standard self-defense practices
The “self defense” style of fascist violence that you hinted at in your comment speaks volumes to your character. Downvoted.
The “self defense” style of fascist violence that you hinted at in your comment speaks volumes to your character. Downvoted.
If you believe standard self-defense practices are fascist violence, all I have to say in response is: call the police if you are in danger, but remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
Another Republican right wing talking point
Another fact, repeated by only one side of the aisle because reality itself is politically polarized these days. Much like 1930s Germany.
Here’s an idea for fighting Nazism: read history of the Nazi party.
So what kind of answer do you want? Do you want to grab a gun and go fight the Nazis like they did in the 20th century?
Like why are you here if your plan is to shoot down all answers to your question. How do you think a person can fight against Nazism? If it’s not by choosing not to act like a Nazi, I’m not really sure what else there is.
Healthy debate is the thing we’ve been missing as a society for the past few years. Everyone (hyperbole) just wants their echo chamber and shouts down anyone who disagrees with them.
I completely understand wanting to purge hateful influences from your personal bubble, but things like morally-driven defederation and banning people for “hate speech” when they’re just in the minority opinion is not healthy for the world, and pushes people like that further into their hateful holes. I know first-hand, as that used to be me. It took incredible circumstances for me to see the error of my ways - circumstances most will never experience.
Also, Hateful Holes. Band name. Calling dibs.
Yeah, forcing people with differing opinions into their own echo-chamber simply reinforces their views. Nobody is there to challenge their thought, nobody is there to provide counter-examples and arguments.
I know first-hand, as that used to be me. It took incredible circumstances for me to see the error of my ways - circumstances most will never experience.
I’m glad for it! Hopefully it was nothing too painful. As often very extreme circumstances need to occur to individuals once they are in an echo-chamber to push them out of it.
If there was an easy answer, it would already be done.
The only thing I can say is treat everyone with as much empathy and kindness as you can. There is plenty of anger and shouting to go around and you don’t win people to your side by shaming or insulting.
Those people are still just people and we have much more in common than we have differences. We all want to provide for the people we care about and want to feel safe and stable. They are just fed a non-stop diet of lies and propaganda pushing them to be how they are.
The world has enough vitriol. It could use a lot more kindness.
It’s not my job to treat nazis with empathy and kindness. If you are a nazi then you deserve to be shut off from society until you decide to be more tolerant
This is like saying that women should treat incels with kindness (insinuating, in bad faith, that the incel problem is their fault) - IT IS NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE OTHER PEOPLE’S THERAPISTS
Have you read Night by Elie Wiesel?
You literally just asked if there’s anything you can do that will help. You’re right it’s not your job to help, but you did volunteer for it.
teft's transporter cloneMy philosophy is tolerance except that I’m intolerant of the intolerant.
Nazis don’t deserve any kindness or tolerance for their philosophy because the basic tenets of nazism are extermination of others. You can’t let that take root in any society or everyone will eventually suffer.
ChozoWhat can we do to prevent trolling in this /c/?