YoBuckStopsHereRon DeSantis’ False claim that some states allow ‘post-birth’ abortions. None do.
GRENADE_MAGNETIn case anyone doesn’t understand how all this works:
Republicans make outlandish, grandiose, patently untrue, vitriolic and inflammatory statements.
This is picked up by right wing “news” outlets like FOX, OAN, Newsmax, etc. and “reported” and repeated. To the people who watch these sources they believe its legitimate, real and true.
These people ONLY get their information from these sources: huge echo chambers. There is no fact checking, no competetimg opinion and no misinformation correction. It is in fact the purpose.
This is meant to stir anger, resentment and many other immoral narratives and it works.
Post birth abortions are OF COURSE not a thing but that truth will be lost on the people that consume and believe this bullshit.
NeatoThat is very true and explains a lot.
I do wonder what the ring-wing viewers think a post-birth abortion is. Because unless I'm missing some context that redefines "post-birth" that's just regular murder. And I'm still struggling to wrap my head around the wrapped-ass mindset you'd need to think your political opponents are OK with just yeeting infants straight to the morgue.
New hospital floor layout when?
Upper floor:
Room equipped to handle birthing
Middle floor:
Nursery station where newborns are kept for a calm and sterile environment to ensure they stay healthy
Lower floor:
Giant freezer, similar layout as the middle floor, just less necessary to keep it sterile or anything. Has the advantage that you can stack containers and save space
/s, though I wonder how many people would believe it if they were told this was planned…
No, you got it right. The right is trying to say that democrats are all baby murderers, and they’re using the “post-birth abortion” phrase to act like “Look, this is what they call it, to pretend to themselves it’s not actually murder. But we right-thinking republicans all know it’s really murder” and the viewers goes “Wow, those baby-murdering democrats can even convince themselves they’re not committing murder!” instead what they should REALLY be thinking which is “wait, are they really all murdering babies? Like really?”
Conservatives are people who love to be lied to. They think dishonesty is virtue and honesty is a vice. That’s why we have qtards, pizzatards, birthertards, sandyhooktards, startthestealtards etc.
Worse, they don’t believe in virtue and vice. They believe that “Who said it” is more important than what was said, Trump and Obama could say the same exact factual thing, but they’d only agree with Trump.
My cousin thinks that abortion at any stage is literally murdering babies (used that phrase before) so there’s that.
And a college friend of mine said that to her, the moment a sperm and egg come together you have something indistinguishable from a baby with a “soul” (word I had used to bring up the topic) and everything. Clearing up the obvious BS is one thing, but we also need to hold that line of thinking to account
Yeah, that level of combining science and religion is nuts to me. Like, at what point does the indescribable, intangible soul attach to the cell. Is it when the sperm penetrates the egg? Or is it when the first phase of mitosis occurs? Or what? And are there a million souls swimming along, each one following a sperm, waiting for their chance to latch on to a fertilized egg? Or maybe one soul per egg? Or maybe God knows when an egg will be fertilized, and he only dispatches one soul when it happens, but in that case he should know when a fertilized egg isn’t going to be born, and not put a soul in that fetus, right? When they try to get really specific about the rules of their make believe club, it starts sounding very silly. But then you get hit with the “we aren’t supposed to know his plan/the Lord works in mysterious ways” and that means you’re not allowed to think about it with the brain God gave you any more.
SkrayPost-birth abortion is letting them grow up to experience a school shooting.
Sending our babies straight TO God.
Unless they’re gay, then they go to the other place™
Rainbow Fun Land!
I do wonder what the ring-wing viewers think a post-birth abortion is.
Obviously, that term is an impossible thing. If they used the real term, “infanticide”, everybody would recognize the lie immediately.
zeppoThey whole heartedly believe that abortion is baby-killing and people who support the option are therefore enthusiastic about “killing babies”, plus all sorts of bizarre things like doctors sell the parts, fetuses are burned in incinerators to generate electricity, democrats worship Satan and so on… so, it’s very easy to get someone who thinks things like that to believe in wetf “post birth abortion” would be.
I work in hospice, and unfortunately many elderly households and nursing homes have people parked in front of Fox “News.”
Last year there was a patient in a nursing home I visited who was crying when I got there. She was extremely distressed, watching FN. She was telling me about all the post birth abortions that democrats were having, “just to kill all those innocent babies.” I told her that wasn’t a thing. She proceeded to tell me that she watched an interview with a Dr on Fox who stated that he used to do them, but it weighed too heavily on him so he stopped. She said that after delivering the full term baby, he would hold and comfort the baby while discussing options with the parents on how to “abort” it.
Whatever the interview actually was, I can not say. But if a viewer got that message from something they aired then Fox needed to be clearer in their messages. In any case, they’re toying with the mental health and wellbeing of the vulnerable elderly for their own benefit, which (among many other reasons) makes them evil.
I’m not sure if it’s still allowed but when a baby was delivered that requires massive medical intervention to keep them alive, the parents had the option to not medically intervene and go through the anguish of attempting to save a non-viable baby. Like a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate).
So it’s not an abortion because the baby was delivered, and it’s not murder because nobody is actively killing it. It’s a tough call any parent would have to make at that moment. Some malformations are fatal and not known until post delivery, or delivery trauma itself. It sucks.
TechyDadFrom my understanding, they think a post-birth abortion happens when an abortion isn’t successful and a live baby is born. Then the “liberal woke doctor” kills the baby and calls it a post-birth abortion.
Obviously, this never happens. Of course, the point isn’t to highlight something that actually happens, but to demonize the left regardless of any facts or truth. They’ll claim that the left is so abhorrent that we kill newborn babies. They don’t care they we aren’t actually killing newborn babies. The mere accusation is enough for them.
There is no fact checking, no competetimg opinion and no misinformation correction. It is in fact the purpose.
This is meant to stir anger, resentment and many other immoral narratives and it works.
Many people are saying that Ron DeSantos practices infanticide. Why does he do that? I am only asking questions.
Because they woke from their nap. He won’t allow woke babies.
useragent13Lol that was so funny!!
He literally does. He’s murdering women and twins by forcing unviable pregnancies to be carried to term.
He’s also woke while doing it. I heard it from a guy sitting in his truck wearing shades so you know it’s true.
I love asking people who are up in arms about abortion which states allow partial birth and watching them figure it out is a treat.
They also very quietly issue a retraction after the bullshit goes viral so they can claim to be innocent.
Years ago I was in the phone to my mom and she brought up that some blue states were allowing abortion up to birth. That didn’t sound right so I looked up the one for New York and read it.
Was the most plainly worded bill I’d ever seen. Basically laying out life of the mother or nonviable clauses in the 3rd trimester.
I read it to my mom and she still didn’t believe me. Like, it was the primary source and she still took fox “news” over it.
The really sad thing is all the people I know who are sucked into this brainwashing are, for the most part, kind and good people. You would never know they are brainwashed until one of these topics comes up and bam crazy words spewing from their mouth!
When this happens I feel genuinely bad for them. I also know trying to flat-out convince them is futile, so I’ve taken to secretly planting seeds of doubt which I hope will one grow grow to fruition. I’m proud to say it’s worked with one of them so far!
Undoing brainwashing tactics is really, really hard… and I just think it’s absolutely despicable that these propagandists prey upon people.
OwenEverbindeTo the people who watch these sources they believe its legitimate, real and true.
One year after leaving California, my mother was explaining to me – based on some selfie video made by two Christians sitting in their car, claiming they had visited San Francisco – that California was now a hotbed for crime and violent death.
It’s not like they suddenly changed their story. For decades now, conservative vloggers and bloggers and “news” networks have been screaming about how California was a post-apocalyptic wasteland and millions of refugees were fleeing the state. She just… tuned it out while she was living in the proverbial horse’s mouth, and then started trusting them the second the first-hand evidence was (I am not exaggerating here. She is now in the next state over.) two hours in her rear-view mirror.
They need to keep the one issue voters outraged now that Roe v Wade can’t be used as the carrot (or the stick) anymore. They must be worried these types won’t be sufficiently enthusiastic about voting in the next election now that their fondest wish has been granted.
I’m stunned at the ignorance on the left regarding this sort of thing.
“Ahh! It’s not TRUE! They’re LYING!” All mad and shit, up in arms.
Yeah. I know. Truth doesn’t matter, only that these things are said out loud. There’s no more or less to it.
Saw a Tucker Carlson segment where a Texas police chief made a wild claim. Tucker didn’t blink. Few minutes later, “I want to talk about the claim you made earlier.”
Sheriff mumble fucks around, “Well, I was just TOLD it was true.”
Tucker looks concerned for 2 seconds, moves on.
The audience ONLY heard the claim, that’s it. Carlson did his journalistic duty by briefly questioning it, nobody can point a finger at him. We’re done here, propaganda success.
And Tucker himself would make wild accusations. He tried to dodge any defamation laws by “just asking questions.” So he wouldn’t say outright “Joe Biden breaks into people’s homes and kills their children,” but he would say: “Now this home was broken into when Joe Biden was in town. Did Biden break into this home? Did he sneak upstairs without anyone realizing he was in? Did he smother the family as they slept? I’m just asking questions here!”
It was a transparent but effective way of getting his audience to not only believe something, but to think that THEY put the pieces together themselves. All while Tucker could claim “well, I never actually said that was what happened. I just asked some questions.”
It was the same when the “death panels” term circulated back in the days of the discussion of Obamacare and socialised healthcare. Right wing propaganda is so extremely effective because they don’t need to explain how complex things really are, they can just make up lies and their followers will believe them.
It is difficult for the sane and factual part of the human population to compete with that, especially when stooping to their level is not really an option.
The other piece that can come after this is the eventual gaslighting where they deny they said it. I can say that, personally, there have been times where I have begun to doubt my perspective because of the strength of their denial and my openness to examine why I think what I do (not all the time if I’m being fair). The amount of effort that goes into learning that it is a tactic with the desired outcome to be bend people to their will can be a hard learned skill.
And the less toxic media has to try to be “fair” by pretending the actual truth is just as valid as… bullshit.