neutralbipolar2Jul 24, 2023

Say it ain’t so

https://lemmy.world/post/2093650

Say it ain’t so - Lemmy.world

Show threademidioJul 24, 2023
I know it’s a shipost and this meme is at least 15 years old. But meat, cheese, and white bread (especially the ones in the US with added sugar) were never healthy
Show threadTWeaK
Especially the US bread which contains a carcinogen.
Jul 24, 2023 at 4:40pmWeb
Show threadaverage650Jul 24, 2023
Which carcinogen?
Show threadTWeaKJul 24, 2023
I don’t know exactly, but it’s one of the preservatives. It’s banned in Europe.
Show threadsarsaparilyptusJul 24, 2023
How profound. Clearly, you have a lot of important things to say.
Show threadTWeaKJul 24, 2023
I said all of that in my other comment, replying to someone else.
Show threadhowrarJul 24, 2023
Only if you live in California!
Show threadTWeaKJul 24, 2023

Exactly lol.

But in all seriousness mild carcinogens are still carcinogenic.

Show threadroadkillJul 24, 2023

Take care not to make statements so inaccurate they are effectively meaningless.

  • "US white bread" isn't a singular brand and most brands don't "contain[s] a carcinogen"...

  • You never mentioned what the carcinogen was. Probably because it would compromise your argument that "US white bread" as a whole contains it when it does not. (It's Potassium Bromate/Bromide (it's used interchangeably online sometimes), for those wondering.)

  • It's not limited to white bread in where it can be used. It was an additive to flour in general.

  • A lot of the fear mongering blogs, written by 'influencers' whose research consists of 10 seconds of Googling but not verifying a single fucking thing they write about, name brands that contain potassium bromate... but actually don't. Example: Wonder bread (https://wonderbread.ca/our_products/white-bread-675g/) Chex Mix. Looking up their ingredients list shows the item in question is not used at all. https://www.chexmix.com/products/chex-mix-traditional/

    • TLDR: Think before you repeat vague, meaningless shit next time.

    BTW, You should look into the horrors of Dihydrogen Monoxide.

    White Bread 675g - Wonder Bread

    Wonder Bread
    Show threadTWeaKJul 24, 2023
  • It’s a preservative widely used in US white bread, but banned in Europe and other places.
  • I don’t know the specific carcinogen off the top of my head, I’ve never bothered to remember it, and didn’t look it up earlier while I was half snoozing being driven home.
  • So you do know what I’m talking about.
  • My source was Dr Joel Fuhrman. I’m not sure if you’d call him an influencer. While I do turn my nose up at some of his preaching, I think much of what he says is backed up by solid science. Not that I follow it myself. If it’s since been removed from most products then good for you and other people in the US.

    • Your link to Wonderbread is from Canada.

    Chex Mix doesn’t contain azodicarbonamide (I’m guessing this is the one we’re talking about? I wouldn’t be surprised if there are others), but it does use butylated hydroxytoluene, which is also classed as GRAS (Generally Recognised As Safe) by the FDA based on a study from 1979. Yet both chemicals have since been called into question for their links to cancer. From a cursory glance, azodicarbonamide has a more proven link, while butylated hydroxytoluene has yet to be properly studied and the link is questionable.

    Too much dihydrogen monoxide can kill you.

    Alcohol is also carcinogenic - more so than bread additives - but I’m definitely having some of that tonight.

    Also, Joel Fuhrman had a podcast talk about lemmy’s favourite, BEANS.

    REGULAR BEAN EATER /// Dr. Joel Fuhrman

    YouTube