Lemmy is more left leaning because the rights popularity seen on other social media are driven by bots that are not here.

https://lemmy.world/post/2081340

Lemmy is more left leaning because the rights popularity seen on other social media are driven by bots that are not here. - Lemmy.world

Yet.

Most smart right wing people (not me obviously), long ago gave up trying to discuss anything important with the left.

It’s not productive, and everyone that I know has just gone to more private chats and channels and don’t even have social media accounts.

You get banned enough times for saying something reasonable, or constantly get called a nazi or something ridiculous and you just stop using those places to talk.

The separation and division has already happened. For anyone hoping to have a discussion with anyone who has different opinions than you do, that train has left the station.

There are bots, lots of them (I’m sure from the left and the right) and that’s it’s own problem. But I doubt we will ever see a place where people can just disagree anymore.

No one seems to have the balls to let these conversations happen on either side.

It's just very hard to find a compromise or "agree to disagree" when the topic of debate is something like should LGBT people be allowed to exist. The days are long past where the right/left divide was all about economic policy -- the divide lies along basic human values at this point. You're going to be hard pressed to find people who can engage with you calmly when you're defending a party whose primary concerns right now are stripping away civil rights from their least favorite human beings before all else.

This is something people on the right just find absolutely ridiculous. No one. NO ONE, think LGBT people shouldn’t be allowed to exist.

This is a big part of the problem, another response to my comment said people who think like I do support genocide.

Like this just sounds so hyperbolic and absolutely laughably ridiculous that no one has the patience to put up with it. It’s not a discussion.

You think I want an entire group of people to not exist. You have been taught this from somewhere and it’s not true. But you’ll never realize that.

So what’s the point?

Then explain to the class what you do believe in. Give us 3 bullet points you’d want a candidate to also support.

I’ll start as an example:

  • I believe in complete and unequivocal abortion rights for women
  • High speed rail should get more funding in the US, and car based transport (where rail could be a realistic replacement) should not be a cheap as it is
  • Gerrymandering should be ended, and federal level elections should be taken over by a nonpartisan 50-50 committee to create new maps when local governments continue to submit unacceptable voting maps to intentionally stall so they can keep using the old gerrymandered map for the next elections
I’m not a politician, but I’m voting for the Conservative Party in Canada, I would suggest you look into their platform if you’re interested because I’m a supporter