Ken WhiteMay 2024 is a very reasonable, perhaps a bit fast, trial date for Trump’s case. Don’t let people who don’t know what they are talking about tell you otherwise.
RodneyPetersonTalentAgency@Popehat In a country that took matters of executive betrayal of national security much more seriously he would have been executed months ago.
Pamela Ehn@RodneyPetersonTalent @Popehat hold up. I know it’s frustrating that the legal system is so slow, but it’s designed that way, or at least after the civil rights era it was. This slowness is a feature not a bug. You don’t want to live in a country where there is a precipitous rush to judgment, especially in a capital case, before all the evidence is gathered. Yes, this “protects” Trump, but it also protects defendants who don’t have Trump’s privilege. Before the judicial reforms brought about by the civil rights era, defendants in many states didn’t have the right to an attorney. And we had this quick rush to judgment which impacted the black community horribly. Black men would be executed for rapes within weeks of the alleged crime, and then they would be found many years later to have been innocent. We REALLY do not want to return to those days!
@cadenza @Popehat it doesn’t. Repeatedly innocent people are railroaded because of this garbage legal system. Just days ago, in California, a man who bombed a business, killing an ex-girlfriend, and found with the bomb making materials in his home, and having collected 350K in insurance, convicted of the crime, five years after the fact. Why is this piece of shit out on bail since then waiting to be sentenced? Garbage legal system for all but the very few.
@RodneyPetersonTalent @Popehat you missed my point. The gears of the legal system grind slowly for a REASON. This is not to say that people aren’t still being railroaded today, but it happens a lot less frequently thanks to judicial reform. As for that guy out on bail. Well, he’s been convicted, so it’s going to catch up with him eventually. That dude will end up serving his time when appeals are exhausted.
@RodneyPetersonTalent @Popehat it will catch up to him and it will be worse for him when it does. The legal system is not gentle with defendants who continue to crime while out on bail. If he commits further crimes, he will face more charges, which will only increase his sentence. If he is out on appeal, the fact that he is still criming is going to cause his appeals to be rejected.
@cadenza @Popehat Aaron Sorkin, The Newsroom:
..there is no
evidence to support we're the greatest country in the world We're 7th in literacy, 27th in math, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, 3rd in median household income, 4th in labor force, and 4th in exports We lead 3 categories number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense,
where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies
@RodneyPetersonTalent @Popehat true. But how is that relevant to the discussion?
@cadenza @Popehat Number of incarcerated citizens per capita it’s right there and even if Aaron Sorkin isn’t 100% correct in his research and script writing he’s close. This was a number of years ago. Considering the horrible trend towards fascism, no doubt most or all of that is worse. Especially infant mortality for which we can thank quite possibly the very worst, most corrupt and unethical Supreme Court ever.
@RodneyPetersonTalent @Popehat again, all true. But you veered off the topic at hand.
@RodneyPetersonTalent @Popehat ok, but it left me totally confused as to what point you were attempting to make and it derailed the thread. Instead of a point that added to the conversation, I got an infodump. Not that infodumps are bad, but in this context, it did not add to the topic at hand.