Y'all… no. The assumed, unexamined rectitude of the intersection of hegemony, militarism, white supremacy, Western Christianity, in the historical underpinnings of "AI" are PRECISELY where most of our present day problems with "AI" come from:
"‘Judeo-Christian’ roots will ensure U.S. military AI is used ethically, general says"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/07/22/air-force-general-ai-judeochristian/
ALSO also, as others have mentioned, "Judeo-Christian" is not a neutral framing. It has a particular vector of deployment by specific groups who mean it in a very intentional way.
It flattens the concerns of diverse groups and it smuggles assumed Jewish support into areas where Jewish people might and probably do have wildly divergent views from the "Christians" in question.
End of the day, "Judeo-Christian" is almost always used as a euphemis phrase for "White Christian Dominionist Eschalotogy."
"Abrahamically-derived" is more descriptively accurate, but still, if you mean to talk productively, carefully, nuancedly about Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, it's probably better to just SAY, "Judaism, Christianity, and Islam."
@Wolven Ah yes, the concepts of *checks notes*
- Original Sin
- atonement as a personal internal issue between the sinner and Jesus
- stakes of infinite eternal punishment for moral failure
- a view of catastrophic apocalypse that sees it as not only acceptable in comparison to, but a /necessary prerequisite for/, eternal infinitely-good history-erasing utopia
A moral framework that has Never Directly Justified Any Atrocities Ever.
(And of course not any complete moral abandonments in the face of a single non-trivial societal decision.)
@alter_kaker @Wolven יאָ.
But I wanted that the components should be davka enumerated separately, because like, there IS a large internal diversity within Christianity, not every subdivision holds by every one on that list, and they all have different impacts in different combinations.
(I should also have listed
- belief in a Universal Truth/Morality that derives with unique perfection from a single source
- (bit of a hot take but) high valuation of spiritual transformation through emotionally-charged states, especially (a colder take now) in combination with the idea that Justice can be pain inflicted by a moral authority
- the valuation of Simplicity as a quality in ethical systems
)
And in addition to the variation within Christianity, those components also can sometimes come up in more cultural systems, some more distant or entirely separate from Christianity.
@alter_kaker @Wolven I also especially wanted to list them because, like, there are a lot of people (including some of my friends) who get a lot of legitimate personal, communal, and societal good out of their Christianity. And an uncountable amount more who, regardless, will continue on carrying Christianity for generations after them.
And many of those people are smart and passionate, and might be able (or at least might try) to leave their Christianity better than they found it. Maybe not, but if so specifics can help with that. Cultural systems are, over enough time, infinitely maleable and totally unfixed -- moral failings embedded deep at one iteration don't rule out fixing them through slow work.
(Not listed above, but like, can there be sometime in the future a Christianity that doesn't have the antisemitism of the character of The Pharisee/Judaizer embedded in its mythos at fundamental levels? Maybe! I hope so! I hope people are working on it, and I wish them best progress.)
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