Again. What the fuck does Hunter Biden matter, and why is this Scarecrow looking scab insist on wasting our money on this garbage?

hunter biden matters to republicans because he’s the only thing they can hang on joe biden, who has been honestly masterful in the way he’s navigated the late and post-pandemic.

What? No that’s not it. They highlight this because when liberals all respond saying they don’t care about this they help reinforce to republicans that they shouldn’t care about Trump’s prostitution stuff or “grab em by the pussy”. It makes liberals look like people doing a performance who don’t actually hold those things as principles because they’re entirely willing to toss them aside for certain issues.

I don’t have a dog in this race because I’m not american.

I’m not American either but my wife is so I know more about this than I would like. Like Hunter Biden is not in government and all he has done is smoke crack, have sex with prostitutes, swindle money from corpos by saying who his dad is and have a massive shlong so I don’t see the connection.

Like american politicians in general come off to me as the most insincere people in the whole world. Like half of them probably do cocaine regularly, quite a few are obvious child molesters, pretty much all of them abuse their position just to fill their wallet with platant insider trading and the rest are owned by major corporations. No one there needs help to seem like it’s just a performance. Like the only thing in American politics that seems sincere is republicans hating minorities, they are just making that their central focus even if it’s not popular.

Like american politicians in general come off to me as the most insincere people in the whole world.

To be fair this isn’t limited to america. Liberals in europe are equally as detestable and insincere. Macron being the premiere example.

Does Macron even count as a liberal? He outright said the French revolution was a mistake and a monarchie would have been better. That along with trying to do some police state shit makes it seem he’s just an authoritarian.

Does Macron even count as a liberal? He outright said the French revolution was a mistake and a monarchie would have been better. That along with trying to do some police state shit makes it seem he’s just an authoritarian.

Modern liberals all believe that. Liberals gave up the social and economic justice beliefs of the Enlightenment as soon as they attained power post-revolution, socialists inherited the Enlightenment thought and became the new left opposition pushing for real justice.

Unfortunately a lot of people who claim to be socialist just follow Stalin’s and Lenin’s ideology of authoritarianism not much better than fascism with a history of executing actual socialists the moment they get into power. Thankfully Eastern Europe, having lived through the horrors of Stalin’s regime, are better at seeing through that bullshit.

Also while most of liberal policies are just a way to make the rich richer, believing monarchy is the way to go and wanting a police surveillance state does not seem to be a common belief.

I want you to ask some of the jews that were liberated from death camps whether they think socialism was “not much better than fascism”.

You’re calling people like Jeremy Corbyn a monster, who regularly defends the ussr, correctly so. That’s how far off the deep end you people are in terms of understanding of this topic.

Thankfully Eastern Europe, having lived through the horrors of Stalin’s regime, are better at seeing through that bullshit.

I am originally FROM eastern europe(Czech) and this is just false. You are talking to people born in the 80s and 90s, brought up on an education system designed with a hefty quantity of anticommunism. You are not talking to people that actually lived under socialism at an age where they can remember any of it.

We have data to back this up anyway:

pewresearch.org/…/hungary-better-off-under-commun…

A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same. In no other Central or Eastern European country surveyed did so many believe that economic life is worse now than during the communist era. This is the result of almost universal displeasure with the economy. Fully 94% describe the country’s economy as bad, the highest level of economic discontent in the hard hit region of Central and Eastern Europe. Just 46% of Hungarians approve of their country’s switch from a state-controlled economy to a market economy; 42% disapprove of the move away from communism. The public is even more negative toward Hungary’s integration into Europe; 71% say their country has been weakened by the process.

balkanalysis.com/…/in-romania-opinion-polls-show-…

The most incredible result was registered in a July 2010 IRES (Romanian Institute for Evaluation and Strategy) poll, according to which 41% of the respondents would have voted for Ceausescu, had he run for the position of president. And 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism, while only 23% attested that their life was worse then. Some 68% declared that communism was a good idea, just one that had been poorly applied.

spiegel.de/…/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority…

Glorification of the German Democratic Republic is on the rise two decades after the Berlin Wall fell. Young people and the better off are among those rebuffing criticism of East Germany as an “illegitimate state.” In a new poll, more than half of former eastern Germans defend the GDR.

praguemonitor.com/2011/11/21/pol

Roughly 28 percent of Czechs say they were better off under the Communist regime, according to a poll conducted by the polling institute SC&C and released Sunday.

balkaninsight.com/…/for-simon-poll-serbians-unsur…

A poll shows that as many as 81 per cent of Serbians believe they lived best in the former Yugoslavia -”during the time of socialism”.

telesurenglish.net/…/Poll-Most-Russians-Prefer-Re…

The majority of Russians polled in a 2016 study said they would prefer living under the old Soviet Union and would like to see the socialist system and the Soviet state restored.

news.gallup.com/…/former-soviet-countries-harm-br…

Reflecting back on the breakup of the Soviet Union that happened 22 years ago next week, residents in seven out of 11 countries that were part of the union are more likely to believe its collapse harmed their countries than benefited them. Only Azerbaijanis, Kazakhstanis, and Turkmens are more likely to see benefit than harm from the breakup. Georgians are divided.

You are objectively and measurably wrong. You are repeating repetitive garbage that you have seen moronic far right americans on reddit who have their brains riddled with the legacy of two red-scares repeat over and over again. Which you too repeat as fact despite it being simply not true.

Me and my whole family is from and currently in Eastern Europe you numbskull. As a bonus my mom’s side of the family is originally from the karelia region where they escaped the soviet occupation once already. I grew up with horror stories from my parents and grandparents about the soviet regime. Also my extended family is about 10% lighter thanks to that regime. And anyone defending that bloody dictator’s regime is a monster, yea.

It’s 4 am so I’m not gonna go over the whole wall of surveys with a comb but here’s my thoughts out em: I’m not surprised about the poll for Serbs, they do seem to love their genocide. As far as the 2 polls that says life was better under the USSR I guess their country must have really gone to shit now.

Considering the USSR did some considerable ethnic cleansing with their death camps in siberia and replacing the local population with their own and the breakup itself causing a lot of economic issues I can entirely believe that those countries consider the breakup itself to be harmful. Also note that the last poll leaves out 4 countries that definitely would consider the breakup to be good which is very weird. If you wanted a poll that said the breakup of the USSR was harmful you definitely want to leave out the Baltics.

Me and my whole family is from and currently in Eastern Europe you numbskull.

Then you should know from talking to literally any elders that you’re talking shit.

Considering the USSR did some considerable ethnic cleansing with their death camps in siberia

This is absolute nonsense. You are a historical revisionist who invents reality to suit themselves. 90% of people who entered soviet work camps left them alive perfectly well, calling them death camps is absolutely absurd. Frankly I’m not going to bother responding to you any further because this just continues to give you opportunities to spew literal actual bollocks into the thread.

Estonian actually, Karelia is were my mom’s parents escaped from to get away from the soviet occupation but I don’t fault the Finns for using help from the nazies to ward off a soviet occupation, considering the nazies weren’t going to occupy Finland it was a lesser of 2 evils.

As I mentioned: the tales of soviet cruelties come from my parents and grandparents. Unfortunately my great grandparents never came back from the soviet death camps and there are no records of where they were taken which is a common thing for people losing family to those camps, soviet record keeping for those was shit. I’m lucky to know this much, most people just disappeared with no records at all. I guess they learned their lesson from the nuremberg trials and just destroyed their records.

Also feel free not to engage, I’m not too interested in some kid from the UK who fell for tankie bullshit and wasn’t impacted by the soviet regime but I do love to argue.

I don’t fault the Finns for using help from the nazies

Stopped reading. Fuck off nazi. Not only did Finland take part in the holocaust by exterminating the Roma living in Finland (or forcing them to fight in the nazi suicide squads), but Estonia also handed over Jews to the Gestapo.

If anti-communists could stop admitting that they admire the nazis within 2 or 3 comments of starting their anti-communism you might actually be dangerous and effective but you can never fucking help yourselves.

Not only did Finland take part in the holocaust by exterminating the Roma living in Finland (or forcing them to fight in the nazi suicide squads), but Estonia also handed over Jews to the Gestapo.

Aside from that, officials confirmed a few years ago that the Finnish Waffen‐SS participated directly in Axis atrocities. While I personally wouldn’t classify 1940s Finland as a fascist state, I understand those who do and the politics that it adopted compel me to classify it as parafascist. An example from Finland’s Holocaust:

Before taking up positions of artistic and institutional leadership in Finland, Kivimaa had already been an established poet, essayist, and writer. […] The views [Arvi] Kivimaa absorbs into Eurooppalainen veljeskunta align with those expressed in a range of German‐language books sustained by the Finnish state—many written by academics who, like Kivimaa, resumed distinguished institutional careers after the war—identifying Finland within the rhetoric of Third Reich racial and expansionist ideologies for consumption by readers of both German and Finnish.

From Finland in World War II:

The widespread Finnish animosity towards the Russians was also more or less explicitly present in the studies on Greater Finland and the occupation of Eastern Karelia. In 1986 Heikki Luostarinen’s doctoral dissertation on the enemy image of Russians and the Soviet Union in the Finnish conservative and rightwing press during the Continuation War focused on the issue in detail and showed the deep racial hatred in the wartime media and mentality.

There is a lot more to be said about Finland, but to keep things short it is a gross oversimplification to summarise its alliance with the Third Reich as simply ‘picking the lesser evil’.

Now, no offence, but I think that you’d be happier or healthier doing something else with your time than trying to reason with anticommunists, seeing as how they can just make up whatever stuff that they want while instantly throwing actual research into the trashcan. Are you sure that you don’t want to try something else? Exercising? Juggling? Reading more books? Even playing drunk lawn darts would be better.