I've noticed that lemmy as a whole is much more leftist than reddit (outside of political servers of course)

https://lemmy.world/post/2008060

I've noticed that lemmy as a whole is much more leftist than reddit (outside of political servers of course) - Lemmy.world

I can’t really think of a reason for that as Reddit is hated somewhat equally by “both” sides of the spectrum. It’s just something I find interesting.

Left and right are artificial, meaningless constructs, and I will never get tired of saying that. Reality is complex, but people are idiots. If there is any political division, it is more along the lines of the parties that try to follow their political goals within the structure of their constitution and design of their governments, and those that don’t mind breaking it to achieve their goals.

This. I hate the whole left/right tribalism.

Like I know that it can be used to get a rough idea of what political motivations someone might have and I know that where my own ideologies would mostly fall in that inaccurate one-dimensional linear spectrum but ultimately it is too inaccurate to use it to classify everyone’s political motivation.

Worse it creates a whole us-vs-them divide. “Oh you aren’t right, when then you must be a commie”. “Oh you aren’t left, then you must be a fascist”. So you might consider yourself in a different position on a political spectrum and just see the differences to someone on the other end of a political spectrum even though you might have more in common then you think. Heck, if you are on complete opposite ends you might even have more in common then you think.

Ultimately, the focus should be less on left/right and more on individual policies. Like should healthcare be public or privatized, should be build another road or another train track here, etc

Why does political debate always have to turn into this tribalistic mud fight instead of proper discussion on how to best address the needs of citizens?

Horseshoe theory - Wikipedia

The two party system.

They built nonsensical coalitions to get votes, so people often find that their preferred party has positions they don’t like.

Then the primary system encourages the most extreme candidates for either party.

Then you have intentional amplification of the assholes like MTG.

Then you create an artificial us versus them mentality where someone on the other side is pure evil. Obviously the GOP is far and away worse at this, but it’s across the spectrum.