Biden will establish a national monument honoring Emmett Till, the Black teen lynched in Mississippi

https://lemmy.world/post/2020662

Biden will establish a national monument honoring Emmett Till, the Black teen lynched in Mississippi - Lemmy.world

Pretty sure they heavily damaged the last sign that was put up. Ya know… The bullet proof one…
They left out the part where Carolyn Bryant Donham admitted her initial accusations that Till assaulted her—which catalyzed Till’s murder—were lies. Still think they should have sent her cancer-ridden, geriatric ass to prison before she died.
Woman Linked to 1955 Emmett Till Murder Tells Historian Her Claims Were False

Carolyn Bryant Donham is quoted in a new book as admitting her long-ago allegations that Emmett grabbed her and was menacing and sexually crude toward her, “is not true.”

The New York Times
I think we should have taken everything from her except the clothes on her back and left her to live her days on the street.
That does bring a smile to my face, but it crosses the line for cruel and unusual punishment.
🤔 So what does that say about the actual homeless communities in the U.S.?
They’re cruel and unfortunately usual.
There was no initial accusation from her. She lied at the trial, and that’s what she admitted to.
Seems you’re correct that she admitted to lying at the trial, but the reporting and facts about what actually happened are so conflicting and mired in obscurity and time that it’s impossible to say what really happened. Not sure if her telling her husband about it really was the impetus for the crime, but she claimed so at trial. Regardless, she deserved prison.

I mean, 99% of the mentions on reddit say the same thrng. I saw one thread one time where someone clarified it.

I’m not sure what my opinion of a 70 year old perjury is. If someone else set off her husband then she might’ve just been trapped in a really bad and abusive place. The jury was shit. The judge was shit. Nothing that child said or did can justify a murder four days later.

If they actively enforce the rules on criminal charges against defacing a federal monument, then this will be a great honey trap for finding and arresting racist POS's who come to shoot it up like they already do with the other Till grave monument.
I hadn’t heard of Emmett Till until maybe 5 years ago (thanks American education system). But I was blown away that people go out of their way to shoot up a monument to a brutally murdered INNOCENT child. Just sickening.
where did you go to school
Not OP, I went in Pennsylvania and we absolutely did not learn about Emmett Till.
In reality his story doesn’t play into the civil rights movement or anything else “important” so most classes skip it. It’s usually a general overview of segregation and Jim crow, the court case that established separate but equal. World war one, great depression, world war two, early cold war, then civil rights movement. I was taught Till in Florida though, they squeezed it in with civil rights movement.
68 years later, the US President, uses a heinous crime and a tragedy, for a few more votes.
So Emmett Till should never be honored on a national level?
He should be honored! He should be honored on a national level by the people (the nation).
Not by a party or a career politician.
How exactly do you arrange that on a national level without the president being involved? Especially if you want a permanent memorial?
So you only honor historical events if your president allows it? All your monuments are there because someone in White House allowed it to happen?

All your monuments are there because someone in White House allowed it to happen?

Yes, that’s how national monuments work.

That's quite beneficial for the people in power. So, you as a nation are also very selective when it comes to historical events you want to preserve?
How is it beneficial? They don’t get any money or power out of it. They just memorialize something that needs memorializing and, because it’s federal, taxpayer dollars go to its upkeep to ensure it stays looking good and doesn’t get trashed. There’s also the matter of protection. Considering a sign memorializing Till was shot, federal protection sounds like a good idea to me.
Emmett Till memorial will be made bulletproof after photo of gun-toting students surfaces

Emmett Till's memorial will be bulletproof after outrage over a photo of three gun-toting Ole Miss students posing in front of the sign.

USA TODAY

The monument for Emmett Till is very important. Children and Grandchildren of those that did the lynching are still living there.

I thought the president is being paid for his work. Is he not? Then again I wasn't talking about monetary benefit. The current staff in the White House could have made all this possible without themselves being mentioned or present. But they are being mentioned and are present because it's beneficial for their careers (that's how they earn their Dollars and Influence and Power).

Beneficial for his career? He’s already president. You can’t get higher than that.
No? Imagine being high on Airforce One? That's like being double high.

I love that apparently absolutely nothing in the world can ever be done out of altruism or a sense of right, or even be good.

National monuments require presidential approval. Normally, the president or his press secretary announces this because virtually nothing in the White House gets done ANYWAY without someone in the press knowing about it in our modern age. So yes, maybe they are doing it for influence or donor money. But can we not just say “this is a good thing” and move on with our fucking lives? Can ONE SINGLE GODDAMN THING be good without qualifiers?

Ya. This monument is a good thing. A very important thing. I never said otherwise....
Hey dipwad, we the people elected him.
Hey milksop, after the ceremony he will go home and hide nuclear secrets in pool houses (what are "pool houses"? Houses with pools?), because that's his priority. Everything else is just PR.
Is he being charged for this? I…thought that was Trump…
idk.. i actually don't care about this stuff since there are no repercussions for any action of those in power, I was just quoting the jellyfish above my post.

idk… i actually don’t care about this stuff

Then maybe just stop talking.

Then maybe

Maybe.

Got it, so you admit you don’t know what’s actually going on, but you comment on it as if you do. Great strategy

I quoted your friend whose comment is above mine, read the whole post. I can quote half your post and comment only on half information too:

Got it, so you admit
No, I don't!

see?

Yes Biden (and Pence) found classified documents at their homes. There is a serious discussion as to why people in power are allowed to do this. Presumably it is to enrich themselves once out of office. Other than the classified bit this is probably legal.
The difference is Biden (and Pence) turned over the documents when found and cooperated. Trump is in trouble for lying about the documents and covering up having them after signing multiple affidavits that he has no more.
How do you not know what a pool house is lol
I'm poor.
LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You

For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than to Google it for themselves.

I’m homeless and I know what a poolhouse is
Good to see the losers are wasting their time trolling on reddit instead of bothering the rest of society at least.
Good thing you're bothered then, and not the rest of society.
Lol stay mad bro
Weird… It’s so late it’s almost pointless. How about publicly break Roger stone and the American mafia.
While I do agree with you, it’s important to remember that the statues of all the confederates in the united states where mostly made in the 50’s and 60’s (referring to the timing of it)… I think, but at least it’s something.
I disagree on it being pointless, America has a long history of ignoring racism. Has it even been a month since Fort Bragg had it’s name changed? And that’s not even scratching the surface of addressing our systemic racism.

Yeah I get it. I can tell definitely have a different life perspective than the two users that replied.

I guess I just really have no faith in America changing. It’s dirty from top to bottom.

Calling this “almost pointless” is just borderline racist. There is never a discussion on the utility of a statue when a white colonizer gets immortalized.
Yeah I see that. Idk I guess my mind is more on a side quest of something else I believe is hurting America. It’s good that if that’s something you appreciate and find important that your spreading your word. Everyones got a different role to play in trying to make this a better place.
It’s always important that we focus on commemorating, and creating lasting examples of society’s faults. So that we never forget, for the sake of not repeating history. It’s truly monstrous what mankind is capable of doing to one another, especially if it’s somehow encouraged. But, there are more pressing matters. A portion of government employees should be tasked with preserving our historical mistakes. The President, as Chief of State, needs to focus on successfully leading us into a prosperous future. Directly combating that which immediately affects the masses, such as America’s pestilent crime endemic would benefit more people quicker. Today, millions in our own country suffer from homelessness, poverty, addictions, physical/mental/emotional/sexual/drug abuse, medical conditons (caused by a miriad of pollutants in air, Earth, water, and diet), crime, harassment, and so much more.
Fucking idiot
Compared to his predecessor, Biden’s a goddamn genius.
He’s a fucking retarded
The irony of this sentence
A rock would also be viewed as a genus compared to Trump.

Would you like to explain what you find to be fucking idiot about having a memorial to a teenager killed because of racism?

I mean if this is the hill y’all want to die on, go ahead.

Long overdue but still an important step forward.