Landrin201What backup service do you use?
PechenteBackups and archived files go to my home server which then backups to backblaze b2.
My setup exactly, with the addition of using M-Discs to backup my core important stuff.
rsync.net is great if you need something simple and cheap. Backblaze B2 is also decent, but does have the typical download and API usage cost.
I had never heard of rsync.net until now. I like the idea but it seems more expensive than B2. $15/TB vs $5/TB. Am I doing the math wrong or reading it wrong?
I’ve never heard of it either, but I came to the same conclusion as you
Yeah rsync.net has always been pricey.
When I researched what to use for my backup I found rsync.net. They have some nice features nobody else seems to support, like they support ZFS send/receive www.rsync.net/products/zfsintro.html
But in the end the price made me go with borgbase.com
I don’t see it on their website right now, but they offer a discount if you’re using something like restic/borg and only need scp/sftp access. Their support is also super friendly. I’ve had an account forever and got moved to the 100+ TB pricing even though I have < 50TB stored. YMMV but it doesn’t hurt to ask if they have any additional discounts.
Also keep in mind that B2 charges for bandwidth too. It’s $5/TB for storage, but $10/TB to download that same data.
Sure but backup is mostly data in (free on B2). Data out is rare, if ever.
If i wasn’t backing up 12TB+ I would actually go with rsync for the features though.
Borgbase looks interesting, too.
I use rsync and backblaze b2.
I use it for version control and cost, about £2 for 750GB
OutcideHow are you using rsync with B2? Are you mounting the bucket locally?
rsync.net and learn to use Borg; they’re stupid cheap if you’re technically proficient enough to handle the Borg setup yourself. Like, charge by the gigabyte, but it’s 1.5¢/GB at the most expensive, and cheaper in bulk
Backblaze.
I use SyncThing to backup our cell phones to my on-prem server, and then use BackBlaze Personal Backup for a cloud copy.
I have an unraid server which hosts an docker image of Duplicacy. It is paid though for the web interface. And it backs up to Backblaze B2. I have roughly 175GB backed up, for which I pay $0.87 a month.
Do you have other clients backing up to your unraid? I’m looking for a complete solution to backing up end user workstations (windows, Mac and Linux) to my unraid server then backing up my unraid server to something like wasabi, Amazon, backblaze, etc. Preferably a single solution.
Yes, I have another server automatically rsyncing important config files to a nfs share. And my pc has a samba share where I manually backup files to.
Look into Veeam. The free version should ve enough for this workflow.
Paid for the web interface as well. I really like that it’s super simple and just does it’s job. That would be the one I’d also recommend.
Git Annex.
Took me a while to wrap my head around it, but nothing comes close to it once you set it up.
Somehow “took me a while to wrap my head around it” doesn’t make me feel comfortable. Apart from git-annex themselves saying that they aren’t a backup system and just a building block to maybe create one, a backup system should imho be dead simple sind easy to understand.
Once you actually start using it it is dead simple and integrates extremely well with stuff you (might) already do.
I have a Git repo which contains my dotfiles + every “large” (annexed) file I want to back up under my home directory.
Git annex automatically tracks where all annexed files are, how many copies there are on various repos, etc.
I add and modify files using mostly standard git commands.
It supports pretty much anything as a “remote”.
It’s extremely simple to restore backups locally or remotely.
Basically Git annex is the Git of backup solutions IME, allowing you extreme flexibility to do exactly what you want, provided you take the time to learn how to do what you want.
Features that are important to me are things like an easy overview of all backup jobs (ideal via a web UI), snapshots going back every day for a week and after that every month. Backup to providers like Backblaze or AWS and the ability to browse these backups and individual snapshots.
I’d assume that you can build all of this with git annex in some way. But I really want something that works out of the box. E.g. install the backup software give it some things to backup and an B2 bucket and then go.
What I’m curious about is that the git-annex site explicitly days that they aren’t a backup system, but you describe it as such.
I don’t care about stuff working OOTB - half the fun is messing around with things IMO.
I also don’t care about web UIs and similar features (I always got the impression from selfhosting communities that this is considered important but I never really understood why - I don’t spend all day staring at statistics, and when I need some info I can get it through the terminal usually).
Also, first sentence on Git Annexe’s website:
git-annex allows managing large files with git, without storing the file contents in git. It can sync, backup, and archive your data, offline and online. Checksums and encryption keep your data safe and secure.
Not sure why you’re saying it’s not a backup solution.
I don’t care about stuff working OOTB - half the fun is messing around with things IMO.
I generally agree. Backups for me are just something I don’t want to tinker with. It’s important to me that they work OOTB, are easy to grasp and I have a good overview.
The web interface is important to me because it gives me that overview from any device I’m currently using without needing to type anything into a terminal. The OOTB is important to me since I want to be able to easily set this all up again even without access to my Ansible setup or previous configuration.
To each their own. I’m not saying your way of doing this is wrong. It’s just not for me. This is just my reasoning / preferences. It’s also the reason something like borg wasn’t my chosen solution, even though it’s generally considered great.
I understand your position, though I always have access to a terminal pretty much so I still don’t see the point of a web UI.
Though I realize I’m in the minority here.
Qu4ndoBorgbase with Borgmatic (Borg) as the Software. As far as I know the whole Borgbase Service is from a Homelab guy (with our needs in mind).
Also 3-2-1 rule!
Also team borgmatic here. ;)
Restic or Kopia, both to Backblaze.
I second restic. Have been using it for a year now and have been generally very happy. Actually had to use it in a couple occasions to restore directory content and even recover a complete workstation drive. I have had relatively easy success in both scenarios.
tiwentyI’ve always found them pretty similar. How’d you chose one or another?
I know Restic before Kopia and made a set of systemd units to run Restic backups on my home server and office workstation (both online 24/7).
Kopia seems much nicer for a regular user, so I use it on my and family laptops. I used to use Duplicati there, but that project seems dead.
Restic and then rclone to backblaze? Or is there a way to restic directly to backblaze?
I do prefer having a local copy of my backups (and therefore i use rclone?, but afaik restic does support b2 directly…
tqgibtngosee also this previous discussion:
https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/182362/What-are-your-backup-solutions
https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/182362/What-are-your-backup-solutions
I use wasabi s3, I back up to get using restic.
External HDD in my wifi network. It runs Samba. I can just drag and drop folders and it transfers over wifi.
Are you using a Synology NAS?
Veeam backup and replication at home and at work. At home a copy goes to a NAS, another copy goes to backblaze b2 currently.
shadowbertDuplicati, to a friend's home server who lives in another town.
GlitzyArmrestI hate to ask the scary question, but have you tried to restore your backups before? I used Duplicati and discovered that none of my backups were usable and ended up switching to Duplicacy.
+1 for Duplicacy. It just works, truly does. Duplicati on the other hand seems to work, but has a tendency to fail on restore, just as you described.
rambosIt works just fine for me, but I’ve heared scary storries so now Im using:
HumaniusHow would one realistically go about testing their backup? Do you need a bunch of empty drives?
𝓢𝓮𝓮𝓙𝓪𝔂𝓔𝓶𝓶You don’t need to do full restores, spot check random files.
This is why I switched to restic.
An important question though.
I have, when I first set it up, and again once when I needed to.
To back up my Synology: My first level is an old Synology, the second is Amazon Glacier.
My truenas backs up to B2 Baclblaze. Set it up years ago and haven’t touched it since.
(you should test your backups)
You may have, but this is a friendly reminder just in case.
Yeah I have. I work in tech, so I know better :)
Regardless of service, if you don’t test your backups, you have none.
Ehhh I would say then you have probabilistic backups. There’s some percent chance they’re okay, and some percent chance they’re useless. (And maybe some percent chance they’re in between those extremes.) With the odds probably not in your favor. 😄
ZikejiSchrodinger’s backups.
I use OneDrive. Buy the Costco subscription and get like 15 months for around 110 CAD. GIVES 6 TB. I create some fake accountsink the sharing to my main account. I have an encrypted rxlone share for some things and others I GPG encryot the tar before sending it up. Been working fine for a couple years and I have multiple TB backed up.
vegetaaaaaaaHow do you backup things to your server? - Lemmy.world
So, I’ve found that there are a lot of ways to backup a server and anything on it, but I’m somewhat at a loss for what to use to backup everything else to that server. For most stuff I personally can grab the files I need and back them up using a simple SMB share or rsync or whatever, but for my SO or anyone else who wants to back up is going to have a hard time. That doesn’t even cover phones - which you would want to back up fairly regularly since, you know, they get dropped. Sure, I personally can hook up tailscale and split tunnel it, and then set up sync on certain folders, but nobody else I know is going to be able to. In a perfect world there would be a backup app that had its own little wireguard tunnel built in that could run all the traffic from wherever to my server, and would easy to set up on Android and Windows, but I don’t think that exists. So what does everyone use that does exist?
wiboI use restic to backup my raspberry Pi’s to my Synology NAS and backup my NAS to backblaze.
- restic > backblaze b2, nightly & automatic
- restic > normally unplugged drive, every couple weeks (manual, recurring reminder)
I use Duplicati connected to Storj with data volumes that incrementally get backed up once per month. My files don’t change very often, so monthly is a good balance. Not counting my Jellyfin library, those backups are around 1 TB. With the Jellyfin library, almost 15 TB.
Earlier this year, I recovered from a 100% data loss scenario, as I didn’t (and still don’t) have space for physical backups. I have a 25 TB allowance, so my actual cost was €0. If I had to pay, it would have been under €1.
alligatorSoupDo you mean 25TB as the storj site says 25gb? Did some promotion give you that much free?