‘There’s nothing American about promoting violence’: country star Jason Aldean criticised for anti-protest song

Try That in a Small Town features lyrics threatening violence against protesters and has been removed from Country Music Television, but Aldean says it is a celebration of community

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jul/19/country-star-jason-aldean-try-that-in-a-small-town-song

‘There’s nothing American about promoting violence’: country star Jason Aldean criticised for anti-protest song

Try That in a Small Town features lyrics threatening violence against protesters and has been removed from Country Music Television, but Aldean says it is a celebration of community

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Now do the history of other major powers. Yea. That’s just the history of civilization.
Yeah, but we’re very specially talking about America right now.
And you’re just going to ignore Mexico and Central America? Because their violence puts the USA to shame.
Their violence is also largely attributable to the USA’s history of backing fascist coups in them.
Whataboutism at its finest. Par for the course for Muricans who believe they are king of the hill in everything but just can't admit that also includes gun deaths, Black maternal mortality rates, homelessness and healthcare expenditures.
Oh, so that makes it okay then.
When we’re discussing an American singer talking about American issues, and reactions by other Americans pointing out American history? Yes. Because it’s not relevant to the discussion at hand. It’s whataboutism and counterproductive. Again, we’re specifically talking about America here. Stay on topic.
Your whataboutism doesn’t even work here. The USA was born in native American genocide, an international slave trade, and rampant settler colonial capitalism. At least the next time when you’re doing racist dogwhistles on lemmy pick a country that the US 24-hour news cycle wants you to derail about like Russia and China you absolute tool.
Right, but the point is this has been a hallmark of conquering nations for thousands of years, and the denialism goes hand in hand with it.
Most other nations don’t pretend to be non-violent while people are getting lynched my mobs…

Japan sits silently in the corner

Let’s not talk about Nanking.

His song literally celebrates violence and the kind of mob mentality that leads to tremendous injustice. Oh, and his music video was filmed on the site of a lynching while it threatens black protesters today. Community? Really?
It tells you exactly who he thinks his “community” is.
It’s dogwhistles all the way down with these folks.
Ah, but you see, dem black folks, them ain’t a part of tha community, dey’re notting but second-class.
These people are stupid. If you want a gun you will get a gun regardless of law, the same why it’s been forever. Laws just a false sense of security in America.
What’s a more tight knit community than a Klan?
This loser isn’t even from a small town. He grew up in Macon, GA (pop 153k) and currently lives in Nashville (pop 692k).
That's Modern Country: Artists with manicures and private jets singing about trucks and farm work. Listened to by office workers with trucks that never leave paved roads.
Lol that’s a great way of putting it. Everything about it is phony. And most artists that could cross-over have been quick to do so and sever their ties to modern country.

Relevant Bo Burnham song for those interested

youtu.be/y7im5LT09a0

Bo Burnham's Country Song | Netflix Is A Joke

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As someone from an actual small town, that’s hilarious 😂
I grew up outside of Jackson MS. Like, wayyy outside. And yeah. It hits pretty close to home.
Same. Even in my area half the men that think they’re that cool country man image have soft hands and clean trucks.

I am country enough, and I know exactly what you guys are talking about. But I also want to point out rough, dry hands are weaker & the smarter blue collars try to soften their hands a little. I was working on a combine, and a bolt broke & I ripped the fuck out of my palm. 😂 My dad said, it wouldn’t have hurt nearly as bad if you lotioned your hands. Supple is strong! Advice that goes back millenia, Aesop’s Fable The Oak Tree and the Reed. Similarly…the smartest guys that really care about their trucks keep them clean. Clean trucks last so much longer, and better; dirt & salt & even bird shit can lead to corrosion.

I know plenty of country folk with a rust bucket truck & they’re happy. If it runs, whatever. Or they run vehicles around in the woods after dark & I see them posting like HAHA I broke down or got stuck!! What a CRAZY, fun adventure I’m on! No thanks, I don’t like expensive repairs or wasted time. Or horrific accidents, or premature death.

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Hear that subtle mandolin?

You dumb motherfuckers want a keychange?

Love that song.

It’s the most cynical art form ever. The average pop country song is just a product; it has zero artistic value. And, it typically reflects a fake culture that has been confected from tropes.

office workers with trucks that never leave paved roads

Not true. They sometimes end up in the ditch after drunken driving.

His mind is a small town.
His mind is a ghost town.
it’s country music. you have to be tone deaf or inbred to enjoy it.

There are a lot of types of country and a lot of different singers. Radio USA certainly doesn’t represent all of it.

It’s like saying you have to be a punk or a lower-class African American to enjoy rap. Rap is surprisingly varied, done by basically all nations and ethnicities, and more-often-than-you’d-think political or otherwise intelligent. Link Park is my favorite band, by the way, and most of their rap is about introspection, dealing with mental illness, or putting down bad relationships— and the latter can be angry, melancholy, resolved-and-hopeful, forgiving, and anything in between.

Wow, that was a really well thought out and constructed comment just to say you're inbred.
  • Here, have a trophy for winning at internet arguments
  • With that kind of charisma, you must have a ton of friends
  • I was born in Illinois and I don’t listen to country (except Niel Diamond, which I argue is partially country even though others disagree)— not that it should even matter. But I say it just to help drive my point home about your stupidity
  • Check my profile and see how stupid I am, I dare you
  • If your goal was to look cool to random strangers on the internet, you failed
  • that lucky bastard, I wanted a trophy! I love trophy’s, they’re like physical manifestations of my awesomeness.

    regarding point #3, inbred people are born everywhere, not just the deep south - though it is much more common there. regarding point #4, I present to you the following evidence. there are many simple ways to earn money, but it appears that you’ve given up. that’s stupid.

    I am 35 and live with two other 35-year-old friends. We have no money, are about to be homeless, and have no hope of ever owning a house. - Lemmy.world

    To be honest, I am on disability ($1600 a month), my deaf housemate is on disability ($800 a month), and my other housemate works full-time at Walmart ($1800 a month). And yet we are so, so screwed.

  • When a person is saying “all people who like country music are inbred”, they are drawing upon the stigmas of the deep south. Duh.
  • At the risk of sounding kind of lame, the fact is that you don’t know anything about me or my situation. Yeah, there are ways for me to make money. But online freelancing is really competitive, and everyone’s too stingy to hire a proofreader/editor. How about you go find a way to make $4000 in a month in a small town in the US when you have cerebral palsy and sensory integration disorder? Go outside, touch some grass, and consider not insulting and alienating every random person you see on the internet.
  • WTF, are you poorshaming?? Gross.
    yes I suppose that’s true, there are a lot of generalizations used when it comes to art - in all of its many forms and flavors. country music just has these specific connotations associated with it - crooning about broken trucks, sad laments for the girl that got away (because she was your sister), limited acoustical and rhythmic harmony, etc
    Yee, the most common things aren’t the only things. There’s something called the “animation age ghetto”. It’s a phenomenon where most people assume that animated movies and shows are for kids only; and it has held back the medium a whole lot. Animation is just a method of getting the art out there. It can be about whatever— or for whomever— you want.

    You're thinking primarily country pop, and I agree with your assessment - most of it's crap. That being said, if the only country you know is what you've been exposed to on the radio, you're missing out on some amazing musicianship. Since I dig sharing music that breaks (or makes) a mold, here's some country pieces that you might dig:

    "Lee Highway Blues" - Michael Cleveland & Flamekeeper

    Jolene - Dolly Parton

    The Highwayman - Wayland Jennings, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Kris Kristoffersen

    Michael Cleveland & Flamekeeper "Lee Highway Blues"

    Michael Cleveland & Flamekeeper performing "Lee Highway Blues" at Scenic City Roots live from Track 29 on 7.11.2013

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    I liked the highwayman! and that violin solo on the highway blues was really neat.
    Glad you liked! You should check out more bluegrass if you like what Cleveland was playing. If you dig the style on the Highwayman, check out more Johnny Cash - he built an amazing legacy of work, and wasn't afraid of genre jumping - here's him doing a cover of Nine Inch Nails' Hurt.
    Johnny Cash - Hurt

    REMASTERED IN HD! UP TO 4K!Official Music Video for Hurt performed by Johnny Cash.Follow Johnny CashInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnnycashTwitter: h...

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    I’ll check it out, thanks!
    My go-to country song, and I’m not a big fan of country, is Juice Newton’s Queen of Hearts.
    Juice Newton - Queen Of Hearts

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    @Arotrios Going to piggyback here and also recommend an artist called Jelly Roll. Started as a rapper, but has branched into a country/rock sound recently. Vocally very strong, and is open about his issues and how he goes about trying to fix his life up for the better.

    I like his older sound better, but he is still a respectable artist even with the more mainline sound. It has however gotten him radio play, for better or worse.

    @stopthatgirl7 @tallwookie @orphiebaby

    Nah there’s definitely more variety to country music than that, but you have to dig for it (try Woody Guthrie for instance). Much like pop music, you have to go past whats popular to find the good stuff

    This is sturgeon’s law. 90% of everything is crap. There’s tons of garbage pop, rock, industrial, etc etc. This is true in books, movies, and other forms of entertainment too

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_law

    Sturgeon's law - Wikipedia

    wasnt aware of that, thanks for the link!

    Hell yeah I know about Sturgeon’s Law! And its corollaries!

    I believe that taste is subjective, but quality is objective. That’s because I believe that quality is about how effective a work of art is at doing what it set out to do, to its intended audience. And if an aspect of a work of art distracts from that goal or brings the work down, it is of objectively lower quality. However, I want to be clear that I mean statistically— individuals of course may be more or less affected or unaffected by individual choices in art.

    Most people— for example— don’t see anything wrong with many of the choices in Ace Attorney; but I find that series to be ugly, tasteless, and insulting (not to mention extremely autism-unfriendly). The faces, the characters, the low-brow, the intuition-unfriendly dumbness. I believe that if Ace Attorney made choices that weren’t bad in those ways I described, nobody who currently likes the series would like it less— instead you’d have a larger appreciative audience instead. So basically, you can make aspects better without them (or others) being less-liked or worse.

    As an autistic person, I really can’t shut off my observation, comparison, or thorough thinking. It’s always going. And one of the effects is that high standards come naturally to me. So because I’m always passionate and scrutinizing, I get more angry or more disappointed when things are bad— but also way more excited than most people when they are good. I feel like a lot of people don’t understand me, thinking that I just hate everything; but those people are focusing on when I’m negative and ignoring how giddy I get at other times.

    But I digress. There’s a lot of crap out there; but that just makes us who notice that much more appreciative of the things that are genuinely good.

    yes thank you, I’m so sick of hearing “rap is crap” from people who’ve only heard a few gangsta rap songs on the radio in the 1990s and assumed that was it. That was all rap had to offer

    One of my favourite Fleetwood Mac songs is “That’s Alright” which is undoubtedly a country song, but you’d never catch me listening to anything else you’d call country. Not even close. However, that proves that there are definitely some country songs out there I’d enjoy.

    I used to hate hip-hop and R&B until I dug past the mounds of mainstream trash and found underground artists I really love. These genres are very broad terms with hundreds of sub-genres.

    That's Alright (2016 Remaster)

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    I found a little R&B I like. Some of R. Kelly, Musiq, and especially Jagged Edge. But I need to find more R&B I like. I love hip-hop too— in concept. I’m struggling to find good artists beyond just a song here and there that I like. Also, I absolutely hate modern mainstream hip-hop. I especially hate autotune.

    I’m pretty white, too. Good music is good music.

    Y’all dumb motherfuckers ready for a key change?
    Hey, cash and Nelson and Parton and the chicks are country. This is just dumbass country. It’s sorta like how folk could be pa with a banjo or it could be a communist strumming a guitar that says “this machine kills fascists” and singing about how we need to be as brave as the Soviets to free England and France.

    Like. The Chicks are awesome. Their “I’m Not Ready to Make Nice” is amazing. So is “Goodbye Earl.” Some country is awesome. Just not this dude.

    I’m Not Ready to Make Nice

    Goodbye Earl

    The Chicks - Not Ready To Make Nice (Official Video)

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    theres some good modern country but most of the big names dont do anything for me. sturgill simpson is great modern country though imho.