asudoxTutanota vs Proton Mail
DahGangalangDon’t have any real evidence to substantiate this, but I’ve heard there’s some indicators that Proton is a honey pot for the feds. You can find the occasional youtuber talking about it.
That said, I use Proton Mail to escape the corporate data collection apparatus and really like it. No experience with Tutanota to give a proper comparison.
MelpomeneWith respect, allegations without proof are conspiracy porn. There's no reliable indication that Proton is anything but what it claims to be.
In interest of a complete record, the video I found most compelling on the issue:
I’d love for you to disprove this guy’s claims. I mean this in good faith and will be checking back in the next couple hours.
Is Proton Mail Really Private, Secure, and Anonymous?
It's not on us to disprove, it's on him to prove.
That’s fair.
I do think this video lays out a clear case that Proton is not as open and anonymity focused as it could be. While going from those facts to a postulation that it’s a fed honey pot is probably a stretch, to use this as grounds to say “Proton isn’t as trustworthy as they claim to be” seems reasonable.
Thoughts on that line of thinking?
Proton's trustworthiness requires framing the service properly. First, they only guarantee E2EE for stored data and data between Proton users. Data passing into the general email stream is not protected after it leaves. Second, they don't claim to be anonymous, but "secure and private." You should absolutely expect that you're not anon.
Yeah, I think that’s a reasonable expectation from the service. The notion that it’s an end-all-to-beat-all service is foolish, but when properly incorporated into an otherwise robust personal protection plan, it can probably help with security.