Hawkwinter :firefish:Jul 21, 2023
So - I saw @[email protected] has a

[QUOTE]My posts are licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/)[/QUOTE]

And it got me thinking: It would be cool if you could license your posts out under terms for-profit corporations wouldn't like (IE Viral copyleft licenses), and make them want to block / defederate your account, and not want to use your art or images in an AI model (such as because they would be legally required to publish their software sourcecode to the world under a CC-BY-SA license or AGPL) - and then if they wanted to do so, a class action lawsuit could make them regret it.

I dunno if CC-BY-SA or AGPL would get us there. But it would be cool.

Any Fedi-Copyright Attorneys have any suggestions on getting there?
Creative Commons — Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International — CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Show threadKathrinJul 21, 2023

@Hawkwinter @aral

I am not an attorney, this is not legal advice.

It's a *very* slippery slope. Currently the entire fediverse works on a good-faith basis, where we don't worry about the copyrights of posts. Once that kind of mindset arrives here, it's going to lead to a lot of destruction.

For one: Federated servers continuously copy from each other, simply due to how the technology works. Servers have to cache posts from other servers locally, even though nobody gave them permission.

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Show threadHawkwinter :firefish:Jul 21, 2023
@Kathrin @aral

Hmm.

People here might be operating on a good-faith basis, but you know that Threads and AI companies scraping people's data to monetize it are not.

The idea is to make it so the people operating in good faith unaffected, while people operating in bad faith are incentivized to not scrape the data, with meaningful consequences for if they choose to do so anyways.
Show threadKathrin

@Hawkwinter @aral

You are correct, but this is a political issue. The problem we're facing is a legal one. Threads and AI companies have the money and legal teams that we do not.

Like it or not, we are small and powerless. We need to plan accordingly.

Jul 21, 2023 at 7:44pmWeb