GhostalmediaHow does Lemmy feel about Grandpa Joe?
Locking this thread because folks are getting super aggressive with each other over some Willy Wonka memes.
There are basically two rules here. Keep the memes old and don’t act like a jerk.
bob_wileyThe family was so poor because Grandpa Joe spent all their money on coke, as evidenced by his coke nails.
Pons_Aeliuscoke nails.
Does that mean Grandpa Joe and Princess Leila exist in the same universe?
Altima NEOHes a piece of shit is what he is
xedrakI NEVER THOUGHT MY LIFE COULD BE
ANYTHING BUT… catastrophe
But suddenly I begin to see
A bit of good luck for me……………….
But suddenly I begin to see
A bit of good luck for me……………….
Fuck grandpa joe
We’re bed people now
EdibleFriendHe made Hitler seem like an ok guy.
ThtevenHE STOLE FIZZY LIFTING DRINK
Name one time Hitler did that.
Fanta was created by the Nazi Germany...
…oh fuck
Motherfucker gets tobacco regularly, while everyone is eating cabbage soup every night
I don’t think its as big a thing since so many people quit smoking in last two decades, but growing up I used to see people (usually active heroin users, but not exclusively) picking up cigarette butts and rolling up the bit of tobacco left at the end. Also in 1971 cigarettes averaged 30 cents in USA, so I don’t think being able to afford cigarettes was the same 50 years ago as today.
r/grandpajoehate was one of my favorite subs. Fuck grandpa Joe!
Perhaps someone could make a grandpa Joe hate instance?
Who's Joe?
Joe Mamma
I’m pro-Joe
Of course I know him, he’s me!
Move to lemm.eeThis meme is classism and always has been.
darcymy guy its a movie based on a childrens book
And?
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Aging was even worse back then than it is now. Modern medicine as we know it today basically didn’t exist.
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The story has a lot of magical realism going on. Joe’s ability to get up and go to the factory with charlie is half miracle, half Joe making an extraordinary effort.
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The whole thing is just incredibly shitty towards disabled people
It’s a mean spirited meme, and it also gives me the vibes of “this person isn’t depressed because I saw them smile once”.
No you’re a karen
Pretty sure misogyny breaks Sopuli’s instance rules, as well as this one.
Never saw the grandpa joe hate meme from this angle and it does really make sense. Old people can still work a bit but not long and it just make their health worse the more they force themselves doing it.
My dad can’t even walk that much anymore and he’s only in his 60s and yet he almost became a professional football player when he was young.
People with disabilities and chronic illnesses are often accused of faking their condition. It’s a very common experience for a person with a chronic illness to have a good day where their symptoms are manageable, get some errands or something done, and then have people around them use it as a weapon against them “Oh you were able to walk just fine yesterday, what’s your excuse now?”. The idea that someone’s level of ability might fluctuate over time, that symptoms might be better one day and worse the next, just doesn’t occur to a lot of able bodied people. And the Calvinist/Chud around “all poor people are welfare queens and poverty and illness are a sign god hates you” really reinforces and supports that view within the culture. It’s real bad for a lot of disabled people.
This mockery of Joe reflects that - Joe was able to get out of bed for one day to help his grandson, so obviously he must be a lazy shirker who is just pretending to disability. It’s 1:1 with the accusations disabled people face constantly.
why didnt he make an ‘extraordinary effort’ when his family was in poverty? just bc hes on charlies side doesnt mean hes a good person. remember he told charlie to steal fizzy lifting drinks!
“Why don’t disabled people just make an extraordinary effort every day? If he can get out of bed for his grandson for one day then clearly he can always do it!”
This is you, you’re the person that tells people in wheelchairs with limited mobility that they’re faking it because sometimes they can walk a bit and sometimes they can’t. The reality of disability is more complicated than just being completely incapacitated all the time. There are good days and there are bad days.
Not to mention that the point here is that it’s literally a miracle. You people accept magical flying elevators and people inflating into beach balls as miraculous but conveniently forget that when it comes to shaming the poor or disabled for managing to get out of bed for one single day.
You’re insufferable. Take a step back and think about the absurdity of getting so worked up over a willy wonka meme.
You wouldn’t say the same thing if it were a meme that’s harmful to lgbt people. Apparently it’s ok if it’s the poor or disabled though?
Do some self crit.
Either you’re a chronically online ex-twitter user who is just looking to be mad, or you’re trolling, but my bet is you’re in this meme and you don’t like it
Anyway you win, you got me to block you
but my bet is you’re in this meme and you don’t like it
My position since the start of this has been that you’re attacking and doing harm to the disabled. It makes no difference whether that includes me or not, it’s a dick thing to do.
bro it’s a joke about a children’s book what are you on about 💀
Can you dipshits stop misgendering me?
elephantiumstop misgendering me
Not sure who “you people” are, but your previous post didn’t contain any clues about your gender. About all I can tell is that you’re probably not a dog.
Then stop fucking gendering people without cues.
southsamuraiSee, the whole debate is one of generational differences regarding context and literalism.
Grandpa Joe was never faking it. It was never anything other than him being old and worn down beyond the ability to do more than stand up for bedding and clothing changes.
The news of Charlie getting the Golden ticket was transformational. Joy is transformational.
And that’s the key to understanding most of the movie.
Notice that all of the kids that get transformed, get transformed externally. Much in the way grandpa joe was.
But Charlie never changes on the outside because his inside, his true self, is filled with the joy of the world he enters via the Golden ticket.
Grandpa Joe is transformed by the power of Charlie’s joy. Remember, out sad grandpa joe that pushed Charlie into stealing fizzy lifting drinks. And, at the end, it was grandpa joe that would have given the gobstopper to slugworth.
But, again, Charlie saves grandpa joe from his own bitterness and anger (despite that anger being justified) by expressing his inner self in a true and honest manner. Charlie is hope, hope that joy and goodness can exist no matter how dark the world is. Grandpa Joe is a man that lost hope and joy as the world pummeled him with body wrecking labor, poverty, and hunger.
But, inside grandpa joe is a different form of transformative power. Love. He loves Charlie so much that Charlie’s joy can change him. Remember, one of the best definitions of love is another person’s happiness being intrinsic to your own.
Nobody who loves their grandson enough to overcome age and pain to then walk around a giant factory and still manage to rage against a man (wonka) who had dared crush his grandson’s hopes and joy can be truly bad.
That’s why grandpa Joe is our window into joy. We’re all cynical adults now, having journeyed on the same path as Joe, being worn down until all we can see is the surface of the event, rather than the true nature of the scene and the character.
But, when we were kids, it was different. We can remember Charlie being our door into that world of candy and song and happiness. It’s only after we begin transforming into grandpa joe ourselves that we forget that the entire movie is about joy and love making the entire world a better place.
Betty White In HDMaybe Grandpa Joe’s just a little bitch. What now, nerd?
Yo, don’t try and step to this. I’ve face fucked whole families, and the baby was scarier than you
Boyo I can put your dick in my mouth and you still wouldn’t have the balls to fuck.