uselessauthThe Fediverse is Not The Future of The Internet.
NorthWestWindFewer people, fewer idiots. I’m glad that people here are actually sane.
RespectMyAuthoritehI’m glad that people here are actually sane.
Speak for yourself.
You’re not the boss of me.
Ok Malcolm.
I am ALL actually sane on this blessed day
All of we are sane says us.
Wait a minute…
Most people, I’ve definitely seen some schizo posts but they are pretty easy to avoid since they let their freak flag fly.
Cyrus DraegurI like it too honestly. It reminds me of stories about how Usenet used to be before the Eternal September.
I have not found that too be true. In fact I am getting more negative replies here than Reddit for similar comments. Like I just had one linking me to the whataboutism definition, but my comment they were replying too was the opposite. Unsure if a dumb bot triggered on a keyword or a person who didn’t understand the definition they sent. Been lots of little micro aggressions here. Wonder if the crowd or AI a grouping is using to sour the experience.
Go back to Reddit. I read through your post and you are a snowflake. I believe you’re looking for an echo chamber, which hopefully will not be found here.
I sadly have to agree… I see that this post has a 2:1 up/down ratio. I was hoping that people with different opinions would speak up more because I would love to hear them
mysoulishomeEdit: congrats on publishing your blog! It’s cool that your put yourself out there. Hope you have a good night.
(My comment wasn’t nice, didn’t realize op wrote it and now feel embarrassed)
As you may have seen, that was my first blog post.
It would be nice if you actually had something constructive so say. Care to elaborate on why you don’t agree?
Oh shit. lol no I’ll just edit my comment and not say anything rude
You didn’t have to do that. If you feel embarrassed saying something rude, just don’t but if you disagree with me, please do tell. I love hearing different perspectives, it makes you grow as a person.
Personally I am sick of reading that the feddiverse is confusing and never going to take off or never going to do this or that. Even if it’s true, which time will tell. It’s like the same article over and over. I thought your blog was just any other random article like “What is the feddiverse? Well it’s this and it’s cool but it’s overhyped”
Maybe those of us who are trying to make Lemmy, mastodon etc happen are too sensitive about it 🤷🏻♂️
The Fediverse isn’t confusing imo. I don’t think it’s overhyped at all, either. “Cool” doesn’t even begin to describe how awesome all this is. Seeing the numbers go up and up, more people joining, making this a nice place fills my heart with joy. I just don’t see it becoming a mainstream thing even though many people probably want it to be mainstream.
I would love to say this post was dead-wrong in a couple of years but only time will tell.
Ok we agree I would love to see it as well 😬😂
Glad we cleared this up :) Have an awesome night!
maegul (he/they)Genuinely …
Awwww 😊
Lemmy is a massive left-wing echochamber though. It’s honestly a problem.
According to you?
If you’re trying to disagree then you’re just delusional.
60% of the US has empathy and 40% does not. I don’t give a shit about the opinion of those without because I already know what it is. Take your left/right paradigm bullshit away and talk about personality traits. I want an echo chamber of those with empathy. If you define that as “leftist” then yes.
You can’t openly say that you want a leftist echo chamber. Hence you cover it up in the name of “empathy”. Good other way around mindgame
AltoI'm about as far left as they come, but yeah it's definitely a fairly strong left wing echo chamber, and thay absolutely can very quickly become a problem.
I'm not even talking about "silencing the right" or whatever those chucklefucks want to complain about. We're not there yet (nor are we particularly close at the moment), but I've seen plenty of communities turn into a hivemind because they're not careful about that sort of stuff.
Your claim to be leftist does not strengthen your opinions strength. I want an echo chamber of users with empathy. That by definition excludes all on the right. Why the fuck should I care about the opinion of a sociopath.
“I want an echo chamber of users with empathy”
You don’t even want an echo chamber, you want a cult
RottcoddI want an echo chamber of users with empathy
Really?
I would think then that you wouldn't be such an asshole.
effingjoeWhat would you consider an example of "right wing" speech? In 2023 that usually means bigotry or misinformation, and I can't help but agree that I don't see any point in allowing that, but I'm willing to be convinced that there's more to that.
You're more than welcome to make a cogent argument for right-wing policies. Please, by all means, convince us that "fuck the poor", "fuck immigrants, but also fuck indigenous people", and a dictatorship of the wealthy is what's honestly best for people, communities, and the environment.
I've been waiting 25 years to hear the case for right-wing policy, but all anyone ever seems to say is "fuck you, I got mine", and there's nothing to say back to that other than "well, fuck off with yours and leave the rest of us alone, then".
It is. But not as much big and toxic as reddit. They are desperately trying to achieve it
I mean all it takes is to read this comment from you and then your post history to realize who you are. Name calling is just an emotional reaction and not discourse.
I really think the typical Lemmy user falls into a lot of the same trappings as the typical Reddit user. It’s especially obvious on political or otherwise emotionally charged topics. In the end it doesn’t really matter if you are downvoted or not, it’s just an imaginary number.
But it’s definitely organic, not trolls or bots; just an inevitability of online spaces
TheSpookiestUserI want the place to be just big enough that the real niche communities (mostly gaming) start blooming. After that, though, I’m good.
It’s quite telling that by having a more ‘complicated’ sign up process and ‘how-things-work’ around here is able to keep idiots off the Fediverse (for now)
And I appreciate this, which means as a potential user I need to do my own background research, look around at different sources of information, lurk for a bit, before committing to a platform. And this in and of itself, for me at least, gives me a better appreciation of the ‘verse’ and how I can contribute to it.
From the article “The Fediverse is not that. It’s kind of… different. I mean, the very first thing you get asked when signing up for a Fediverse platform is “Which Instance?”. The signup process in the Fediverse is more complicated than people are used to.”
Rufus Q. Bodine IIINeither is the internet the future of the internet.
SarlaI agree with much of the article but… Dude, go on holiday. Billionaires and corporations make up the vast majority of emissions that are driving climate change. See the world before the rich end up destroying what’s left of it. You’re allowed to enjoy yourself.
I know all that but I honestly don’t need to. Most of my time is spent inside anyway. Sometimes I take the train and spend a weekend some place nice but that really is all I need.
Probably on a per capita basis but we are all contributing to climate change (the majority of it): epa.gov/…/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data
Do you have a source?
And we have to stop thinking vacations and planes are the same things. I’ve gone to awesome vacation places by train, car and even boat. You can still take vacations without it being a problem for the environment, just don’t take the plane
This bullshit is 100% written by corporate social media. Fuck that.
It’s not. I just wrote something about not using Discord and am currently working on a post about Element, the better Discord.
…btw.so/opinion-discord-shouldnt-be-your-main-mes…
I am not convinced by your opinion piece.
Excuse me? I don’t understand
Your post is an opinion piece asshat. And I disagree. Go troll someone else.
Usually I would be open to an exchange of opinions. You not being able to stay calm and civil unfortunately prevents that.
Did I stutter? Troll someone else with your shit opinion.
100thCatMarchHey OP. I suggest you report the guy to the mods so he can get banned. I encourage others to do the same
already did but thanks :)
it’s sad when people can’t keep their cool…
Yeah it is pretty sad seeing a lot of people be so angry on the internet. But I hope this cheers you up OP!
みっちりねこマーチ - MitchiriNeko March - Cute cat characters in a marching band!
Thought you were gonna rickroll me but this actually put a smile on my face. Thank you, kind stranger :)
People feel really empowered with the anonymity of the internet...
techviatorI absolutely agree.
Reaching the masses and keeping all of the mass content requires money, since investors are starting to realize that gazillions of views do not necesarilly equals profit, they are asking about ROI, which in turn makes the masses-reaching platforms look for ways to monetize those views, and that does not sit well with privacy caring people, but the masses don't care about that.
I really hope the masses never fill the fediverse with their nonsensical content.
The main reason behind Reddit’s API changes and Twitter Blue is money. This is and always will be the driving force for companies.
It makes sense. The people need to be payed, the servers need to be run.
Twitter Blue exists because Musk is an asshat, and screwed himself out of billions of dollars, and he's trying to claw some back. Reddit's API changes are because they're trying to set up for an IPO to line the pockets of the board and executives, not just of Reddit, but of Advance Publications, the parent company.
That IPO set up isn't only about profitability right now, it's also about the profitability of reddit going forward. The effect of all the nonsense that's going on over there is that the userbase is having the critical people culled away, leaving only the people who don't understand or care. This means that Reddit The Company will be more in control of the content. Advertisers don't like their ads showing up next to porn, and it's arguable that people who are critical of the way reddit behaves are less likely to click ads (on purpose), and certainly less likely to convert into customers for those advertisers.
Did Reddit The Company plan it that way? Not a chance. They've been doing stupid things hamfistedly for a while, some might say since the very beginning.
As a counter to your opinion that the fediverse is not the future of the internet: Meta jumped in, Threads is an ActivityPub platform. Wikimedia has an instance now. I believe the Netherlands government stood up an instance. I don't know the federation status of any of those, but it's something.
The difference between standalone siloed platforms like Instagram, or Reddit, or, Digg, or SomethingAwful, or Fark, or Twitter, or, or, or -- is that ActivityPub is a protocol. Anyone can write code to create a platform to use ActivityPub, and have that platform interact with other ActivityPub content in a myriad of ways. I fully expect there to come an ActivityPub platform that really catches on, much more powerfully than any of the current ones out there.
Interesting take. I know about Meta and it wouldn’t be out of character for the Dutch government to go into the federated direction. It would be really awesome to see more federated platforms catch on like Mastodon. We just have to be careful about letting companies like Meta in. What happened with XMPP can’t happen with the Fediverse.
I do admit that I probably make it out to be worse than it will be, I’m just the cautious kind. Let’s hope that the Fediverse will be a nice place with nice people for a long time.
I sure as hell hope it doesn't become mainstream - I don't think there's ever been a single thing that's benefitted over the long-term from mainstream popularity.
I understand that you don't want to be seen as gatekeeping, but I don't share that aversion. I overtly want the fediverse to remain somewhat confusing and opaque, and specifically do that dumb and/or impatient ans/or lazy people will stay away. I think that every single person who gets confused and frustrated here and goes back to Reddit or Twitter is a net gain for the fediverse.
I agree that it would be beneficial to have this space be filled with people that understand it. What I meant by “I am not gate keeping the Fediverse” is that I don’t want to be rude to new people by being annoyed at people not knowing stuff yet. It’s okay to be new, it’s okay to learn. I just want people to be willing to learn, that’s all.
Ah. Yes - I agree entirely.