That is also a thing and explains the most vivid ones you only remember when something startles you back to fully awake.
But mostly I meant for me it greatly depends on the situation and what I am trying to imagine.
I’m 5 too and I worked out it was different than most people what I was around 6yo when some kid in kindergarten asked me what my mum looked like and I said I didn’t know but all the other kids knew what their mum’s looked like.
40 odd years later and i still can’t picture my mother, wife, kids, friends or work colleagues in my head, I couldn’t give you a detailed description but I’ve trained myself to memorise features but it’s more like memorising how to spell a word than an image
Yeah the cashier thing, I don’t think I recognise seeing the same person a few times but like the coffee shop down the road I recognise them there.
One funny encounter I had was a few years ago I had just started a new job and on the second day the boss had keys I needed the following day, we both happened to live near each other and he said to met him at a local shop’s carpark and exchange the keys, he beat me there so I had to look for him and realised I hadn’t memorise any of his features, so I’m there walking around the carpark just looking in cars for a person sitting in a car and saw a guy but he didn’t make any movement so thought it wasn’t him so kept walking then he gets out and calls out to me. I could tell he thought it was weird I had stared at him for a few seconds and then walked away…
For me anyway, not the person you asked but lemmy needs comments to feed it.
But for me, i don’t visually picture someone’s face off I’m remembering it, but i do remember what someone looks like. So when I meet someone I recognise, it just clicks. I could describe someone i know from memory but maybe not with a ton of detail.
I remember what things look like, could remember details of a painting etc etc, it’s just when i think of things, theres no visual acompaniment.
Idk its hard to explain now that I’m trying to put it in words
I’m a Maladaptive daydreamer, not only could I “see” an apple, I can imagine it in my hand and look really close at the little details of an apple in real time.
I am not joking, my daydreams play out almost exactly like I’m watching a video, sometimes I look fondly at the story I crafted as if I just finished watching an episode. There is a very thin barrier for me that prevents me from just making up memories.
It sometimes feels like that, I’ve used it to organize my thoughts, I also used to use it as a “hud” like a videogame objective but I’m pretty sure that was just superfluous.
I’m into worldbuilding and I want to learn how to draw, problem is this is all counterbalanced by my procrastination and ADHD, it’s hard for me to sit down and write anything down or practice drawing. Having a TV in your head when you need to concentrate on things like school didn’t help either.
The most productive use I’ve made of it has been for programming, I still don’t have a programming job yet but I was able to learn the skills. I have a lot of technical interests and I feel like I understand a lot of abstract and theoretical ideas more easily. Funny thing is though I can barely do basic math in my head, even my ADHD diagnosis notes I can’t easily keep words or numbers in my head, even if I try to visualize them.
Thanks for the in-depth reply!
I can sympathise with the TV in your head thing haha, for me the music feels constant which can be nice but occasionally really annoying and distracting loops get stuck in there. I’ve found to be a good remedy for that though idk how relevant that would be for the mental images side of things. Also, I get all these ideas which I record/write down and… never really develop -_- feels like there’s too much I wanna do and not enough time to really get into the meat of it :/
Even though you find number stuff in your head tricky how have you found algebra / calculus / the more abstract side of maths? Or more closely tied to programming, set theory? Maybe you’d be able to visualise the more abstract concepts well.
I can give you an explanation of godel numbers and how we proved that all general logical systems will have contradictions (knowledge gotten from youtube though), but tell me to subtract a two numbers and I’ll need a minute.
As for calculus, I didn’t take the class in high school, but I do watch videos about infinite series and proofs which I find fascinating now. I plan on going to college (2nd attempt) and I’m certain I’ll be much more proficient in it once I learn the fundamentals.
People can’t imagine an apple in great detail? I thought this was just something everyone can do? Not only can I imagine it, or anything else perfectly, I can taste it, smell it, move it around in space inside my head…
I just assumed being able to do that was part of the human condition.
Look up aphantasia, it’s when someone has no visuals in their head whatsoever, they tend to think more in concepts and words but never anything visual. And most people fit somewhere inbetween the two extremes (but it’s still surprisingly common for someone to have aphantasia, they just don’t realize it).
Funnily enough your daydreaming seem a little more advanced than mine, I typically struggle to imagine smells, but that might be link to just having a bad nose overall.
I can feel it too, the oily grippy weird skin of a freshly picked unwashed apple.
But I’m not seeing a red apple, I’m seeing a green apple with streaks of red, because I’m picturing my neighbors Apple tree.
Yea I don’t really “see” an apple, it’s more that I can pick out one infinitesimally portion of it at any moment. So if I think about the leaf I can construct the leaf, but not the rest, and it is constantly changing as I move to other parts of the apple.
I wouldn’t really say I see anything, it’s more abstract than that and hard to convey.
I was gonna say, when I imagine an apple, I don't think of it simply as an image, but a representation of the concept.
Like, if I were to actually describe the "vision", it's more like a 2 or a 3, but the *concept* in the mind is a 1. I'm aware of all the detail conceptually even if the actual holistic visual image doesn't include it.
Like, moments of imagining the apple would be glimpses of its detail, but "zooming out" wouldn't include that detail, because now you're forest not trees.
I see the apple as a wireframe more than anything. My head isn’t empty and I can activate the smell of apple in my my nose, and how it would feel to hold one, but it feels like loading commands, rather than normal state.
When I was young I tried imagining a seesaw and making it go up and down by will, but couldn’t do it. Later in life it wasn’t a problem though.