Kremlin accuses West of turning blind eye to Ukrainian 'terrorist attacks' against Russia

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Kremlin accuses West of turning blind eye to Ukrainian 'terrorist attacks' against Russia - Lemmy.zip

It’s not terrorism when it’s a major state actor and they’re not hiding their involvement. That’s just war.

Uhm, no, based on your definition not even the official 9/11 story’s Al-Quaida would be considered terrorists because they supposedly admitted to what they were doing:

FBI’s terrorism definitions:

International terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups who are inspired by, or associated with, designated foreign terrorist organizations or nations (state-sponsored).

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

Encyclopedia Britannica:

terrorism, the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective. Terrorism has been practiced by political organizations with both rightist and leftist objectives, by nationalistic and religious groups, by revolutionaries, and even by state institutions such as armies, intelligence services, and police.

Cambridge:

violent action for political purposes

None of your definitions match Ukraine, which attacks military targets during an active war started by a nation that invaded them.

Now, Russia actively bombing civilian targets to generate a climate of fear in a population to bring a particular political objective, seems to awfully match that definition.

What’s so interesting to me is that from much of what I’ve read - bombing civilian populations as a way to end a war has basically never worked. It was pushed heavily in WWII due to I think LeMay theories, but basically strengthened morale to stand up to the enemy instead.

Of course, not saying the Russians, or really anyone who gets into a war is necessarily behaving rationally, but this is sadly very destructive with very little history saying it’ll help anyone achieve any goal.

Yeah, in case of Ukrainians they know that if they surrender it still won't be over, the next thing will be killing them and moving them to far east until the Ukrainian identity is completely erased.

Yeah, in case of Ukrainians they know that if they surrender it still won’t be over, the next thing will be killing them

The constant refrain of “Russia wants to kill every Ukrainian”. It’s never made sense. There has never been any reason to believe that the goal is to kill Ukrainians.

Can you lay out exactly why you think that Russia will kill Ukrainians once the war is over? Can you lay out why you think the goal is to kill Ukrainians?

  • Putin was never hiding that in his opinion Ukraine has no particular cultural significance or uniqueness
  • If you watch interviews of Muscovies they want to exterminate Ukrainians some people didn't even have problem with saying that Ukrainian children should be murdered
  • there are already brutal attacks on Ukrainian civilians and many documented war crimes
  • nearly a million of Ukrainian kids were kidnapped and sent to Muscovies, that's basically a textbook example of genocide
  • Do you believe things will get better if they have full control over Ukraine?