YoBuckStopsHereUS ceases funding to Wuhan institute amid Covid probe
KnumbKnutsBarn door and horses.
TonyTonyChopperCan you rephrase this for “city folk”
Flying SquidThey’re parroting conspiracy theory nonsense about a lab leak and how the U.S. was ‘funding gain-of-function research’ as if that’s not what pretty much all virology research is these days.
The fact is we need institutes studying coronaviruses. Especially in Asia, where so many originate. This is a very bad idea.
It’s not a conspiracy theory if it’s an accidental leak. It’s happened before in the Soviet Union and people died, although it don’t lead to an epidemic
The conspiracy theory is “COVID was engineered to affect Jews and Chinese less prior to being released on purpose”
These are different claims, and accidental leak is at least plausible and only blames the lab for improper safety precautions
The U.S. funding part, which implies it was engineered, is the conspiracy theory nonsense part.
which implies it was engineered
It They have admitted that. Coronavirus was manipulated in the Wuhan Institute of Virology to become more infectious. The contention is around the term "gain of function." Fauci changed the definition some years ago to skirt the funding bans imposed by Obama. His new definition requires intent to make a virus more communicable or virulent for humans. Since the WIV didn't intend to make it more communicable or virulent for humans, Fauci maintains it is not "gain of function" research.
I don't see why this is so hard for some people to accept. Chinese laboratory standards are among the worst in the world. Article after article after article details their abysmal safety standards. Why on Earth should we believe that this specific lab were somehow better? Of course it wasn't. Of course some unqualified technician made a mistake. This was always the concern about gain of function research, which was why Obama banned it.
That is not an admission that COVID was engineered. The overwhelming scientific evidence is that it had a natural origin.
It’s not an admission that Covid-19 was engineered. It’s an admission that the lab at the epicentre of the outbreak was engineering corona viruses to make them more dangerous.
Without data, which China has destroyed, any research such as the paper you cite is working blind. I’m sure natural origin does seem the likely theory given the precedent they cite. But our intelligence agencies are privy to more than guesses.
You cannot study viruses without gain-of-function research.
As for intelligence agencies, you’re incorrect in your assumption- nytimes.com/…/covid-lab-leak-wuhan-report.html
You cannot study viruses without gain-of-function research.
We absolutely can study viruses without gain of function research. It just takes longer.
As for intelligence agencies, you’re incorrect in your assumption- nytimes.com/…/covid-lab-leak-wuhan-report.html
If you're arguing that intelligence agencies are unreliable, why are you linking to a report from an intelligence agency?
We absolutely can study viruses without gain of function research. It just takes longer.
No. You cannot reliably study what a virus is capable of without it. All you can do is hope it mutates in a certain way.
If you’re arguing that intelligence agencies are unreliable,
I’m not, I’m arguing that they disagree and the ones who say it is a lab leak say so with low confidence.
why are you linking to a report from an intelligence agency?
I’m not, I’m linking to a New York Times article (hence nytimes.com) about how they disagree and the ones who say it is a lab leak say so with low confidence.
This is something you would have known if you had read the article.