Man, I’m so glad this global warming thing is leftist propaganda or I’d really be freaking out right now.

Luckily, we can choose to reject reality and believe whatever makes us feel better.

I feel best believing the biosphere is gonna force humanity to “find out” for the last century of fuckin around with a recklessly unplanned terraform.

Love how the collective of humanity needs to find out because the richest few fucked around.

But the rich are supplying a demand. And a ton of innovation wouldn’t be there without them.

Imagine thinking CEOs drive innovation lmao

But they kinda do. Imagine Samsung or Apple stopping innovation. Company goes bankrupt.

Oh brother

Man I am kinda sorry, that I invade your worldview.

But rich people don’t have all their money stored in a vault like Dagobert Duck. It’s all stocks.

And boy, if one of the companies make losses, then their money goes downhill. It’s volatile.

And due to immense concurrence in innovation in the tech sector, every investor has a huge interest in innovation.

And with many investment, the start of a company is ensured.

The current capitalism is the system that works best.

Especially the US capitalism is one hell of a driver in innovation. I live in Germany and many companies wouldn’t be possible here. Even though we have capitalism, it’s much softer than its US counterpart.

The downside of course is poverty for cheaper labour.

And that’s brutal, but it’s the reality we live in.

Though I wouldn’t want to live in the US without healthcare, on the counter side I wouldn’t want to start a company here in Europe.

UserDoesNotExist, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this website is now dumber for having read it. I award you one downvote, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Sorry if you do not understand the system we live in.

Oh brother

I might lighten you up a bit.

The methods to combat climate change are already there. We already have the means for weather engineering.

The future is inevitable. And so is every step towards it.

The ‘future’ is not inevitable. There have been countless collapses in history. Our technology doesn’t make us immune. The people of the major Bronze Age powers probably thought the same.

Also we do not have the means for weather engineering. If you’re talking about SRM, we have no idea what its consequences will be or how to do it effectively. It’s all theoretical. No aircraft we currently have can do this stuff. Sure, we could design it and build one, but then you need global governance to actually implement it properly. Not to mention the risk of ‘termination shock’ and countless others.

Have a look at the scientific literature: semanticscholar.org/…/e4e5a78335eda8c16557b32af91…

Would you seriously risk the future of life on Earth on something this experimental?

I fear this arrogance will kill a lot of people and cause a lot of suffering.

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/03/asia/…/index.html

Firstly, that isn’t ‘already done’. It’s a PR statement from the Chinese government about plans. The stuff they have already done, like reducing hail etc., is nowhere near the same level to what is needed to stop climate change.

Secondly,

Radical solutions such as seeding the atmosphere with reflective particles could theoretically help reduce temperatures, but could also have major unforeseen consequences, and many experts fear what could happen were a country to experiment with such techniques.

This is from your source ^

So is this:

In a paper last year, researchers at National Taiwan University said that the “lack of proper coordination of weather modification activity (could) lead to charges of ‘rain stealing’ between neighboring regions,” both within China and with other countries. They also pointed to the lack of a “system of checks and balances to facilitate the implementation of potentially controversial projects.”

Think of the geopolitical mess this kind of thing would create. If it works that is.

Well, there is always the option to use sunsails in orbit. These could also be motorised and adapt to the needed parameters.

There are a ton of solutions. And the weather and climate engineering is just one of them.

Sure, I like the idea of space megaprojects. I doubt sunsails in orbit would be profitable though. How would you monetise it? Put massive ads on them? Charge everyone a subscription fee?

Now, governments could probably do something like that, and I wouldn’t be against it if safety and unintended consequences were taken into account somehow.

Also, I thought you believed space exploration tech was useless.

I agree there are many solutions. I don’t think markets and capital are going to make them happen.

We can probably buy time with tech solutions. Long-term solutions will have to involve major fundamental sociopolitical change.

Sure, I like the idea of space megaprojects. I doubt sunsails in orbit would be profitable though. How would you monetise it? Put massive ads on them? Charge everyone a subscription fee?

Well, a fee could theoretically be possible. Farmers with plants that need shadow could pay for shielding. In the end the end consumer pays the price.

Now, governments could probably do something like that, and I wouldn’t be against it if safety and unintended consequences were taken into account somehow.

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Also, I thought you believed space exploration tech was useless.

Let me rephrase it: it’s boring. Nada used old ass Russian rockets for years. So there is not much innovation there anyway.

I agree there are many solutions. I don’t think markets and capital are going to make them happen.

I think that depends on demand. Some airlines already offer climate compensation packages. An additional payment to compensate your emissions. Such money could also be invested into sun shield projects.

We can probably buy time with tech solutions. Long-term solutions will have to involve major fundamental sociopolitical change.

I agree on the tech solutions. Let’s see them being implemented before chopping on the foundation of our economics.

I think that depends on demand. Some airlines already offer climate compensation packages. An additional payment to compensate your emissions.

A lot of those are scams or of questionable value unfortunately

theguardian.com/…/carbon-offsets-used-by-major-ai…