fattyfoodsFirefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer
theangrysealThree chrome users said, “nuh uh!”.
If only. Every chrome user said the same thing they’ve said after every other overtake. A poignantly disinterested silence. They just don’t care.
I just don’t want to move my password management over to another browser. I use Chrome and Android and the convenience is out of this world.
Malicious actors thank you for your patronage. Get an app with a browser extension
When I changed from Chrome to Firefox a year ago or so, Firefox imported Chrome’s saved passwords, along with bookmarks and everything else.
You can easily export passwords from Chrome as a CSV and directly import them to Firefox.
VoltageYou can literally import passwords from chrome to bitwarden and use it in any browser with an extension. Bitwarden is so much more convenient
Not on my phone it’s not.
RiskableFirefox Sync works to keep your logins/passwords in sync on both Android and iOS (and the desktop version too, obviously).
Just use a 3rd party password manager, bitwarden will transfer them for you. Also, having used both, bitwarden is superior.
Firstly: Firefox can import your Chrome passwords and if you enable/sign up for Firefox Sync (which is better–privacy wise–than your Google account) you’ll be able to use them with Firefox mobile (it’ll sync your settings and bookmarks too, obviously).
Secondly: You can export your logins from Chrome to a .csv file (hamburger menu in the settings… somewhere; I forget, sorry) which can also be imported into Firefox (support.mozilla.org/…/import-login-data-file) and other password managers. I literally just tested importing both Chrome’s and Firefox’s saved logins into a KeePassXC database and it worked fine (it didn’t automatically figure out which field was what though so I had to manually tell it which column was the password, URL, etc but no big).
Firefox also has the same .csv password export feature BTW.
TheSaneWriterCongrats to Firefox, it really has made substantial improvements over the years.
Firefox a few years ago would kill my Mac battery in a couple hours, now it’s as good as safari for energy management. No reason not to use it as a daily driver now.
Maybe it’ll start maintaining Mozilla again. You know: its namesake project.
Mozilla Suite, the thing discontinued seventeen years ago!?
There is a project called Mozilla? Afaik it is the company name? What is it?
Mozilla is the name of the Open Source version of Netscape Navigator. It is the pre-cursor to Firefox.
Banzai51Not only that, they had goals beyond just a browser. They wanted to create a whole OS ecosystem integrated with the browser. They released Firefox as a side project to just get a browser in everyone’s hands while they worked on Mozilla. Turns out the OS ecosystem in a browser was a bust, and Firefox was a winner. Just the Mozilla devs haven’t stopped being bitter about it. The old Netscape motivations around the project have been a boat anchor.
I mean didn’t they achieve that? Today a lot of things are web based. Firefox is a powerful browser. Especially on Android. So if you want you can have your OS in a browser thingy…
Not at all. They created a great browser, which is what us end users wanted, but they never achieved their ecosystem goals.
smplIt’s called SeaMonkey now and AFAIK it is maintained and under community management.
Yep, I use it every day.
That doesn’t change the fact that Mozilla gave up on its flagship.
Now all we need is that it provides a better experience than Chrome.
Meh, I’ll be honest and say that I’m not impressed by chrome in modern day. While I hate Microsoft, edge is a nicer browser to use than chrome, and that’s saying something
I agree, but I think that the normies like to use Chrome because… that’s what everyone is using, so I am eager to see how FF can give a better experience to the normal user.
Normies use Gmail, it’s easy when you login to your browser and you’re partially already authenticated everywhere else.
Same goes for android.
it’s easy when you login to your browser and you’re partially already authenticated automatically sending your personal, private information everywhere else.
FTFY
You’re correct, but the majority of normies don’t care. A lot of people don’t naturally feel a strong impulse towards privacy, so the fact that Google knows everything about them doesn’t really bother them.
It already does. I dislike using Chrome. Firefox works better, looks better, and containers are really useful to me.
I’ll stick to Safari. I don’t trust Mozilla any more than Google or Microsoft.
Ah yes, an open source popular browser that is made by a nonprofit organization is less trustworthy than a close source browser made by a public company
An open source organization with a track record of dubious user-hostile behavior.
Apple does not add plugins to my browser without my consent, nor do they show ads in my browser.
Isn’t Safari made by Apple? It’s not like Apple is some paragon of corporate virtue, why do you trust them?
If you’re running Safari, you’re already running their OS. If Apple wants to spy on you, they’ve already got the means to do so, so you’ve already decided to trust them.
Chrome or Firefox means trusting one more entity in addition to Apple. This expands your possible exposure.
Because with Apple I’m the paying customer, not the product being sold.
You’re always both. With Apple, it doesn’t sell your data, but it does sell curated ad space where they use your data to power their tools. While this is less of an invasion of privacy than Google or the atrocity of Meta’s privacy policy, it still exists on a spectrum of how much companies are willing to use your data for extra profit. I’m not saying to not use Apple, hell I’m currently using Microsoft Edge, but I think it’s important to understand that literally every profit-driven company is subject to the same systemic flaws and none of them can be completely trusted.
The Picard ManeuverBrowsers are cyclical like fashion, I guess.
Remember when chrome launched and they had all those commercials showing how fast it loaded webpages?
imaqtpieIf browsers are like fashion, Firefox is a well-tailored suit. Never out of style.
Catweazle@imaqtpie @The_Picard_Maneuver, in Vivaldi you can create your own style to your like and need, or also download one of te more than 3500 user made themes.
https://themes.vivaldi.net
https://themes.vivaldi.net
Vivaldi looks cool, and I have heard tell that Mozilla is far from its former glory, but my user experience on Firefox is excellent so I have no reason to switch
@imaqtpie, that is the point, the best browser is the one which suits the best your needs and use.
Apart of Vivaldi as main browser, I also have Firefox and the Otter Browser for test reasons (f.Exmpl to see if an isue is due to Chromium or general, FF with Gecko and Otter with Qt5)
Apart of Vivaldi as main browser, I also have Firefox and the Otter Browser for test reasons (f.Exmpl to see if an isue is due to Chromium or general, FF with Gecko and Otter with Qt5)
Yeah for sure. You’re much more advanced than I am, let’s just say it’s not a coincidence that I’m on sh.itjust.works 😅
@imaqtpie, I don't think so, I only a normal user with the experience since my first modem with 56k.
Vivaldi since 7 years, which fits all my needs, due it's more a Internet suite than a browser, with all the funcionality you mauy need, without using extensions, apart of the end2end encrypted sync with Vivaldi Mobile, without sharing userdata to Google (Alphabet), what Mozilla does.
Vivaldi since 7 years, which fits all my needs, due it's more a Internet suite than a browser, with all the funcionality you mauy need, without using extensions, apart of the end2end encrypted sync with Vivaldi Mobile, without sharing userdata to Google (Alphabet), what Mozilla does.
Does it have adblock?
@imaqtpie, yes, Vivaldi has an inbuild ad and trackerblocker, full customizable, in desktop and also in mobile. Even blocks (most) of this annoying Cookie Advices.
the best browser is the one which suits the best your needs and use
This is objectively false. The best browser is the one that gets the job done and doesn’t have endless absolutely terrible security vulnerabilities (e.g. IE before they switched to Edge which is just Chrome) or intentionally leaks your private information (e.g. Edge leaking every site you visit to Bing and Chrome doing the same but with Google).
Also, from a performance perspective “the best” is obviously objectively measurable and Firefox just took the crown which is what the post is all about. Realistically though both Chrome and Firefox have had completely acceptable levels of performance (imperceptible differences to normal humans) for like a decade. So it’s probably not that big a deal.
A bigger deal for normies using their browser IMHO is memory utilization which is a much bigger factor than, “how fast does the browser load and run HTML, CSS, and JavaScript?” Just ask Google how much more memory efficient Firefox is! LOL
@riskable, the best browser is the one which suites best your needs is correct. But yes, you can add "if it is other than Chrome, EDGE or current Opera.
What I never do is using Google, Bing or Yahoo as search engine, because they are direct Spyware, logging your activity and history, which apart of a security risk (they sell your data to advertising companies), rest privacy and you run with their use in a filter bubble.
The speed differences of modern browsers are certainly irrelevant.
What I never do is using Google, Bing or Yahoo as search engine, because they are direct Spyware, logging your activity and history, which apart of a security risk (they sell your data to advertising companies), rest privacy and you run with their use in a filter bubble.
The speed differences of modern browsers are certainly irrelevant.
TheGreatFoxYeah, Vivaldi is the best chromium-based browser. Personally, I use it a secondary for sites that were made to only display right on chromium browsers. Librewolf, a privacy-focused fork of Firefox, is the one I use as a main browser.
@TheGreatFox, Librewolf is a good choice, but instead of a FF fork (Firefox also has a good privacy, but not so Mozilla), I prefer the Otter Browser. Mozilla in last years it has become a Google Mascot and is sponsored by it. When you need to sync your data, Mozilla shared it with Alphabet, googleanalytics and googletagmanager.
Anyway the privacy depends more on the search engine you use and your common sense, than on the Browser itself (only if you not use Chrome, EDGE or Opera)
Anyway the privacy depends more on the search engine you use and your common sense, than on the Browser itself (only if you not use Chrome, EDGE or Opera)
@TheGreatFox, anyway in privacy you always have to make compromises, for example when I set my privacy to the maximum in Vivaldi, I have as a counterpart that many pages do not work or are unreadable. What we have to avoid is exposing private data and not so much technical data (OS, screen resolution, country by public IP (we can only hide this last with a VPN), things like this that need many pages to work as espected and do not identify you personally).
i had left firefox for a while due to the google ecosystem but i’m happy i came back to it.
Same. I have switched between the two several times, but I started on Firefox for a long time before switching, and now I’ve been back on Firefox for at least 5 years. There was definitely a good stretch of chrome in the early 2010s though.
EricHill78Firefox on Android using Ublock Origin is as good as it can get.
Factos
Most Google web apps (Maps, Earth, Gmail, etc) work in Firefox.
Extra_Cucumber_2979I just love reading post like this, congrats Firefox and f*** Google!
Firefox rules
Chrome drools
Damn that’s huge improvements in a relatively short span of time. I’m just waiting for more features on Firefox Android.
SorteKaninWhat features are you missing?