nothingcorporateThe hottest 14 days ever recorded are the last 2 weeks
Fisting for FreedomMan, I’m so glad this global warming thing is leftist propaganda or I’d really be freaking out right now.
Luckily, we can choose to reject reality and believe whatever makes us feel better.
I feel best believing the biosphere is gonna force humanity to “find out” for the last century of fuckin around with a recklessly unplanned terraform.
genoxidedev1Love how the collective of humanity needs to find out because the richest few fucked around.
very smart IdiotBut the rich are supplying a demand. And a ton of innovation wouldn’t be there without them.
MostlyBirdsYou mean the innovation that’s destroying the planet? Ok bro.
Let me correct you: the innovations that are changing the planet.
Because we cannot destroy the planet. We do not have the means to destroy the planet or it’s ecosphere. No chemical agent could do it. No Carbon could.
The only think, that we might argue on is if innovation and its consequences on the climate will eventually harm humans unproportionally compared to the benefits of said innovation.
Here in the west we are in a rather privileged situation, as climate change will not affect us too much. Extreme weather events will eventually soften up, once the jet stream reestablishes its circular movement closer to the pole.
But adapting to extreme weather events shouldn’t be too hard. Maybe start building European style housing.
Now addressing other climate zones, we shall not forget that humans even exist in deserts. We are very adaptable. The means and solutions to such a life already exist. So adapting is not a matter of innovation, but education.
Saudi Arabia has proven this years in advance now. And we should remember last, that this is the extremest of possibilities.
European style houses won’t save anyone from extreme heat
Europe has had plenty of fatal heatwaves in the past.
www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/…/heatwave#:~:text=M….
Saudi Arabia has ‘proven’ whatever it has proven through insane levels of draconian state intervention in everything, a lot of oil rents, and using imported slave labour.
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https://www.hrw.org/reports/2008/saudiarabia0708/5.htm
en.wikipedia.org/…/Foreign_workers_in_Saudi_Arabi…
Hardly a model for anyone to follow.
Too Hot to Handle: How Climate Change May Make Some Places Too Hot to Live – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet
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I don’t think you have been reading a single one of the articles.
The first one already is a not so fitting response to m claim that European style houses are ore resilient against extreme weather events.
The first one is about how wet bulb temperatures and extreme heat work. The second one is about Europe. Whether or not they are ‘more’ resilient doesn’t matter.
Also I don’t think you know what Europe is. Scandinavian, Central European and British houses are mostly made to keep heat in during cold winters. They’re not good for heatwaves.
Mediterranean style housing is definitely better for heat. But that doesn’t stop Italy, Spain, and France from having deadly heatwaves.
The first one is about how wet bulb temperatures and extreme heat work. The second one is about Europe. Whether or not they are ‘more’ resilient doesn’t matter.
Yes it does matter. European housing is well insulated. And definitely sturdier than US housing.
Also I don’t think you know what Europe is.
Yea, my bad. As a German I obviously have no idea what Europe is.
Scandinavian, Central European and British houses are mostly made to keep heat in during cold winters. They’re not good for heatwaves.
This is wrong. Insulation goes both ways. In summer it helps keeping the cooler night temperatures inside.
Mediterranean style housing is definitely better for heat. But that doesn’t stop Italy, Spain, and France from having deadly heatwaves.
Mediterranean housing is not especially good against heat. Wrong assumption. Swedes, Germans and the French are doing a much better job than the mediterranes.
Won’t dispute that European housing is sturdier. And yes insulation works both ways - however, you need good ventilation. And shading etc. AFAIK insulation optimised for heat retention is different to that optimised for keeping cool.
If you have a study or something that compares Mediterranean vs other European house designs, please send it to me and I’ll change my mind if I’m wrong.
As a German you should know that heatwaves have killed thousands of people in Germany as well.
Swedes, Germans, and French are also wealthier and have less extreme heat to deal with than Italy, Spain or Greece. You can’t attribute that to house design. Again, if you have a study comparing these, send it to me and prove me wrong.
My comparison on housing insulation is purely based on my experience. Italien housing is not much insulated. Insulation is usually driven by the need to reduce cost when heating in winter.
That’s a problem Italiens face not so much. Therefor in comparison to
Northern Europe, Italien housing is far less insulated.
And because insulation goes both ways, I came to the conclusion that Northern European housing is better suited for warm summers.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10199188/
Found this paper ^ Haven’t read it yet though
I think you may be partly right
But anecdotal evidence isn’t very convincing. I’ve had the opposite experience; found being in Greek and Spanish houses during a heatwave way more tolerable than UK ones, even without AC. Idk about Germany but some older Czech houses feel like ovens when it gets too hot. Lovely for winter though.
Thermal insulation impact on overheating vulnerability reduction in Mediterranean dwellings
Heat waves are expected to increase the use of air conditioning (AC), deriving in higher energy consumption. This research aims to determine whether thermal insulation is an effective retrofit strategy for tackling overheating. Four occupied dwellings ...
Thanks for sharing the paper.