John Stonier

@Salty @Hypx the leading use case for H2FC is large #trucks that operate against GVWR where the trade-off is more payload each trip for less battery weight. Cement & dump trucks, for instance. Shorthaul aircraft might be another application, including wherever heating is required, as that’s 50% of the output of fuel cells.

Agreed, in LDV there is no cost effective use case. But what will come first, buildout of the #H2FC vehicle supply chain, or better #batteries?

Jul 18, 2023 at 9:58amWeb
Show threadHypxJul 18, 2023
@FullOnElectric @Salty When the cost of FCEVs drop below that of BEVs and operating costs are the same, there will be no situation where you want a BEV. BEV supporters simply haven’t read the Innovator’s Dilemma, since their exists a situation where no amount of plausible battery improvement can save their business. At some point, the concept of market disruption becomes a real issue.
Show threadJohn StonierJul 19, 2023

@Hypx @Salty As to when:

… they can take rare metal catalysts out of fuel stacks? ,,, #H2FC stack maintenance is zero, as #BEV #batteries are over their lifetime (measured in decades)? … hydrogen distribution and pricing is equivalent to the electricity grid? … when they can store #hydrogen safely at high densities at ambient temperature and pressure? … when the production of #H2FC vehicles rises above 100’s per year?

Yes, of course then.

Show threadHypxJul 19, 2023

@FullOnElectric @Salty That's just a bunch of random thoughts. It's total nonsense.

FYI, FCEVs are already selling in thousands per year. It has already proven itself as a concept. A lot of what you said is just outdated and obsolete.

Show threadJohn StonierJul 19, 2023

@Hypx @Salty

just tap your shoes together twice and your beliefs will all be true.