Italy begins stripping lesbian mothers of their parental rights

https://lemmy.world/post/1639718

Italy begins stripping lesbian mothers of their parental rights - Lemmy.world

One mom said she cried for 10 days after hearing she was being removed from her daughter’s birth certificate.

I’m so sick of humanity.
it’s not humanity doing this, it’s fascists. don’t use the rise of fascism to hate humanity, just fight it.
But fascists are apart of humanity, I don’t get this?
Centralized systems lend themselves to fascism, and our species is undergoing it's most all encompassing centralization ever.
edited my comment to clarify
no. fascists choose to act inhumanely towards others while wanting the benefits of humanity for themselves.
It’s like if you hate mushrooms. You don’t say that you hate all food, just mushrooms.
inhumanity is guaranteed when a right-wing political party forms the government.
It’s hard to fathom how the people who enact these laws can fall asleep and feel like they’re doing something positive for the world.
they know they're being terrible. the cruelty is the point.
I am sure foster care and orphanages will teach these kids some good family values
did you drop the sarcasm tag? or were you being serious?
Not everything needs a sarcasm tag.
I used to agree with you, but Poe's Law has grown to Kaiju proportions in recent years.
I have to agree with you.
you have to be sub-human trash to be ok with this
right-wing political parties have ''be sub-human trash' written in their manifesto and yet people vote them into power.
In the USA, if I were to adopt a child, would my name be put on the birth certificate? I don’t actually know how this works. How does the birth certificate affect the legal guardians?
Wow that was haunting to read. How much they hurt these people that just want a family is sickening.
look at their history. the cruelty is the point.
It's not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult to have a golden castle city guarded by foreign mercenaries, you also have to listen to their stances on parenthood, which they are, surely, experts, in.

It’s not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult

Huh, TIL the Catholic Church had lost all its territory to Italy and then later was granted some back (by Mussolini, no less) instead of having continuous sovereignty stemming from the Papal States and predating a unified Italy itself.

That’s the second time in two days that I’ve been about to “ackchyually” somebody but ended up learning something myself instead. I’m getting more and more impressed with the quality of discussion here on Lemmy.

and there are restrictions that prevent the adoption of “stepchildren” by one parent.

That one was judged unconstitutional in Germany as it bereaves the child of a perfectly suitable caregiver. In the end, before gay marriage was introduced, the only difference between marriages and civil unions was that gay couples could not adopt jointly, only one after the other, and generally speaking authorities are quite reluctant when it comes to singles adopting kids they aren’t related to by blood.

earlier, i wrote a comment saying not to use fascism to hate humanity; at the same time, the fact that fascists are also human is something we have to acknowledge so we can stop our loved ones from falling into it
guess im “sub-human trash” then ¯_(ツ)_/¯
You created an account just to be an asshole? Jesus that’s sad
They think they’re being edgy.

Good. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

You don’t HAVE to be bigoted trash. It IS possible to learn empathy for your fellow man, to understand that a person’s sexuality does not make them more or less of a person. It IS possible to change your ways. It IS possible to make the changes within yourself… the changes that you need to make in order to prevent a sad future where your own children disown you for being a shitheel goon. It is possible to be, you know… a good person.

But I also get the feeling that you are too obsessed with the smell of your own farts to have any real understanding of how dumb you sound. Who cares if no one else wants to smell your wafting shit odor? You’re perfectly happy simmering in your own idiot stink.

It’s not too late. You don’t have to be on the wrong side of history.

Upvoted to show agreement with your statement 8-D

The thought that keeps me sane through this is believing that the pendulum swings both ways. We have to accept that there are people who like this, and I’m going to hate them for it, but opposition will always exist.

On the whole (a long time) things in society have improved and they’ll continue to improve over time. It might just be our lot to have a shit round.

i dare you to call me that ;)
Absolutely disgusting.

That's something I learned from reading too many books about WWII. It all started with the little things. What's that "first they came" quote again?

First they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Socialists and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

All you need for evil to prevail is “good boundaries.”

You know what’s ironic about that quote, especially in the context of this thread? The group who they really came for first was the LGBTQ, not the Communists. Even in the act of lamenting his failure to speak out, Niemöller failed to speak out about them.

Another related “fun” fact: the very first NAZI book burnings “included around 20,000 unique works on intersexuality, homosexuality, and transgender topics” from the Institute of Sex Research.

Nazi book burnings - Wikipedia

The group who they really came for first was the LGBTQ

Thats still not really taught in german schools (or at least mine) even though we have this subject at least a whole year in history class.

And whats also not taught is that the more that ten thousand gay people that were thrown in KZs were only rehabilitated in 2001 and those that were sentenced after 1945 in 2017. After the Nazi regime was over the persecution of queer people did not just stop.

The nazis absolutely came first for the communists, as that was literally part of their rise to power, blaming the communists for the Reichtagsbrand and jailing members of the KPD and SPD so they couldn’t vote against the proposal to give the NSDAP full control.

Alternatively, the NSDAPs founding program 10 years earlier contained “revocation of the german citizenship of jews” as a main point, though they didn’t have the ability to do much at the time.

It’s a bit more complicated as the whole of the SA was basically a gay orgy. Certainly not the queer kind of gay, though.
Yet another proof that religion doesn’t help anyone
Fucking fascists doing fascist things.

everything I dont like is fascist

your meds sweetheart, dont forget to take them

The prime minister of Italy is a full blown, card carrying fascist, you ignorant clown.

"Giorgia Meloni (Italian: [ˈdʒordʒa meˈloːni]; born 15 January 1977) is an Italian politician who has been serving as the prime minister of Italy since 22 October 2022, the first woman to hold this position. A member of the Chamber of Deputies since 2006, she has led the Brothers of Italy (FdI) political party since 2014, and she has been the president of the European Conservatives and Reformists Party since 2020.

In 1992, Meloni joined the Youth Front, the youth wing of the Italian Social Movement (MSI), a neo-fascist political party founded in 1946 by former followers of Italian fascism. She later became the national leader of Student Action, the student movement of the National Alliance (AN), a post-fascist party that became the MSI’s legal successor in 1995 and moved towards national conservatism.

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It’s two paragraphs you drama queen. God Forbid you have to actually read anything.
I would vote for her then if I could. She looks pro.
You’re not welcome here btw.
Fucking fascists and fucking Organized Rape Worldwide (I may have spelled catholics wrong).

Your spelling is fine . particularly when we remember the deaf children at the Antonio Provolo Institute for Deaf and Hearing Impaired Children in Lujan de Cuyo who were abused, tortured, and raped by priests for more than a decade. and the priiests had helpers who helped them commit these horrors. Of course, the pope and his vatican knew about it and chose to let it continue. cos that's what they do.

sources:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/priests-found-guilty-of-abusing-deaf-children-at-argentine-school

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/the-pope-ignored-them-alleged-abuse-of-deaf-children-on-two-continents-points-to-vatican-failings/2019/02/18/07db1bdc-fd60-11e8-a17e-162b712e8fc2_story.html (Alterate link : https://archive.ph/N9IzF)

https://international.la-croix.com/news/religion/new-trial-linked-to-clergy-rape-of-deaf-children-in-argentina/14240 (alterate link : https://archive.ph/8W6QZ)

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/pope-francis-catholic-abuse-povolo-schools.html

Anyone who can read these accounts without throwing up has a stronger constituton than me.

Priests found guilty of abusing deaf children at Argentine school

A three-judge panel in the city of Mendoza sentenced the Rev. Nicola Corradi to 42 years and the Rev. Horacio Corbacho to 45 years for abusing children at the Antonio Provolo Institute for Deaf and Hearing Impaired Children in Lujan de Cuyo, a municipality in northwestern Argentina.

PBS NewsHour

Organized Rape Worldwide LOL

That’s terrible… She’s her daughter in every way.
And the thought of losing your child if something happens to your partner, it breaks my heart.

My daughter would loose her second mother though she has been there for her since birth and even before that.

My wife would not be allowed to sign a document for our daughter or visit her in the hospital when she is sick.

I absolutely don’t know how the Italiens can accept such a move.

Cutely is the point.
Cruelty you mean? I hope at least
you cant even spell italeans LOL
Mfs when German and French exist