big_spoonFeb 23, 2023

the dprk question

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/518737

the dprk question - Lemmygrad

something that puzzles me about reactionaries speaking about north korea or any communist country, is the idea that they have a dictatorship so powerful that people aren’t able to fight against it, movies and spectacles accused as “staged” or “if he/she fails he/she will die with his/her family”. the typical idea of enemies “being weak and uberstrong at the same time”, like damn…if people in dprk were under a dictatorship so brutal as they say, you would hear more about uprisings and strikes more frequently than in USA, are you trying to tell me that the only “efficient dictatorships” are the communist ones? that capitalism isn’t able to keep people like pinochet or hitler more than a couple of decades and with constant revolts and a huge media industry? ok…

Show threadexbotJul 17, 2023

It seems like you assume there is a direct relationship between how brutal a dictatorship is and how often people revolt, but I don’t see why that would be the case.

An important factor in how people resist their government is the risk/reward of doing so. Do they understand that revolt can create change? Do they fear for their lives?

My understanding is that in North Korea, it is very likely that speaking out against the government will result in years or decades of jail time. Information there is also tightly controlled, so people do not believe such action would be productive anyway. I think a person would not want to revolt given those conditions, even if they are not happy with their government.

Simply put, they do not know things can be better, and they wouldn’t know how to make them better if they did.

Show threaddiegeticscream[all]🔻

My understanding is that in North Korea, it is very likely that speaking out against the government will result in years or decades of jail time. Information there is also tightly controlled, so people do not believe such action would be productive anyway.

What is this understanding based on?

Jul 17, 2023 at 6:07pmWeb
Show threadrjs001Jul 19, 2023
Probably heard it on Fox News or on a Facebook post. Ignore what these capitalist trolls spout
Show threaddiegeticscream[all]🔻Jul 19, 2023
It’s fun to nibble the bait sometimes, just to see how strongly their line is set. :)
Show threadDamarcusArtJul 19, 2023
The worst part is when you fall for it and think there’s someone with a brain on the other end, so you waste time treating them like a human being instead of just pointing and laughing at a clown.
Show threaddiegeticscream[all]🔻Jul 19, 2023

Yeah, it can be frustrating. I think it’s worth treating it like a bit of theater.

You’re not talking to a person, trying to convince them (that doesn’t work). You’re showing the couple of lurkers here how silly that viewpoint is, and how rad we are.

Or just taking the time to be a feral weirdo to a lib who’s used to the usual liberal fetish of politeness in tone over everything else. Either way works! 😁

Show threadDamarcusArtJul 19, 2023
Yeah, I’m all out of patience at this point, probably just going to do more of the latter, it’s way more fun.