Is lemmy working on better default sort options than “hot” and “active”?

https://lemmy.world/post/1630855

Is lemmy working on better default sort options than “hot” and “active”? - Lemmy.world

I’m not really sure where to ask this question. Maybe there’s a lemmy dev community where these kind of discussions already happen. I feel like the default front page in Lemmy is still severely lacking when compared to Reddit’s r/all algorithm. I find hot and top hourly to be nearly identical. The top 6 hour is closer, but still not as good as what the Reddit default front page is.

Yeah same. People complain about algorithms but 80% of the posts on my homescreen are posts from the meme pages. There should be a choice for algorithm based feed.

I don’t think people realize what an “algorithm” actually is. Top hourly is an algorithm, for instance.

The advantage of being open source is that all the algorithm logic is accessible by anybody. So they can’t hide nefarious logic in there to push agendas for instance.

I feel that the mention of reddit's 'r/all' algorithm being better than Lemmy's algorithm certainly shows a clear misunderstanding of these algorithms; r/all can be sorted in the exact same ways as Lemmy, the only difference is that reddit has more active users and thereby more content + people filtering it by voting. I also think people in this thread misunderstand 'algorithm' to mean something solely meant to find posts that they may personally like or at least the least are somehow quasi-objectively 'good'. An algorithm for that can be made, but that is not what the algorithms currently in-use have ever been intended to do.

If someone wants a feed of posts that particularly targets their interests then they'll have to tailor one themselves, just like on reddit.

So, when I go to r/all, it defaults to “hot”. That sorting algorithm is specifically what I’m referring to. And no, that doesn’t exist in Lemmy. Top 6 hours is the closest that I can get to that, but I believe there is tons of logic hidden in the Reddit algorithm that makes the quality of sorting better.

I am not looking for a personalized sorting option. I browsed r/all specifically to avoid that. The front page of r/all always felt special to me. Like content that makes the front page is a big deal on Reddit.

I get that the quality of content isn’t there yet and depends on a larger user base. I just want to know that the front page sorting is being worked on, and maybe what the conversation looks like.

So basically, yes this has been discussed a lot and there are various options for fixing it floating around. A few weeks ago there were all kinds of urgent gamebreaking bugs in the software that needed patching up, but hopefully things like sort algorithm improvements will have their time to shine soon.

As far as what the conversation looks like, here’s a link to all the currently open Github issues searched for “sort”. github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%… Some of them will be more relevant and have more discussion than others, since people tend to make a lot of duplicates, but it should give you an idea of the current thinking.

GitHub - LemmyNet/lemmy: 🐀 A decentralised discussion platform for communities.

🐀 A decentralised discussion platform for communities. - LemmyNet/lemmy

GitHub