LerajeJul 15, 2023

The shady world of Brave selling copyrighted data for AI training

https://lemmy.world/post/1520219

The shady world of Brave selling copyrighted data for AI training - Lemmy.world

From the article: "I know for a fact that Wikipedia operates under a CC BY-SA 4.0 license, which explicitly states that if you’re going to use the data, you must give attribution. As far as search engines go, they can get away with it because linking back to a Wikipedia article on the same page as the search results is considered attribution. But in the case of Brave, not only are they disregarding the license - they’re also charging money for the data and then giving third parties “rights” to that data."

Show threadXærisJul 15, 2023

TIL; stay away from Brave.

Not only because of this article, but merely an hour ago I have read also this post (numerous links provided in the post) about the dubious Brendan Eich.

What are some of your favorite Linux FOSS replacements for WIndows software? - Lemmy.world

Hi everyone! So I’ve recently switched to Linux and I’m having a lot of fun downloading software and replacing my old stuff with it. I’m wondering what you all use? My switched softwares: Obsidian -> Logseq - Obsidian is great and all but I think Logseq is also competent in its own way even without plugins. I am currently exploring templates to create my own daily journal/habit tracker like I did in Obsidian. Word/Notepad -> LibreOffice - Seems to have a lot of options. Currently using the writer software for quick notes. Canva -> Inkscape - I am aware that Canva is a website/android app, but I decided to switch from it to Inkscape by utilizing open source illustrations such as Undraw for graphics needs. I still need to look up tutorials on how to use it properly, though! Clip Studio Paint -> Krita - I actually made this switch a month or two ago, but I’m really enjoying Krita a lot more than I ever did Clip Studio Paint. Less things to get distracted by, giving you more chances to learn how to utilize the essentials. Things I’d like to explore in more detail: - Thunderbird as a calendar/email/task software - Whether or not I should stick with Calibre for book management - Kdenlive as a video creating program. I haven’t created videos before, but it seems fun. How about you? What do you enjoy?

Show threadMonologue
i don’t get why people choose to use brave, firefox is great and if you really need that chromium base ungoogled chromium exists
Jul 15, 2023 at 12:59pmWeb
Show threadSmugBedBugJul 15, 2023
Firefox has always been my go-to. In my opinion more people should use it.
Show threadazronJul 15, 2023
Librewolf is starting to replace Firefox for me. Either way birds of a feather!
Show threadJarmerJul 15, 2023
I think LW is better out of the box. It has both UBO and Containers built in. Which is just awesome. I still use FF as my daily just because I have customized it beyond belief, but if I were to start over again I think I'd start with LW.
Show threadMattJul 15, 2023
Brave is great for less techy people because it’s defaults are good enough. It’s not necessary to tweak settings and install add-ons to get basic privacy. I definitely prefer Firefox, but it takes some knowledge to get it to surpass Brave’s defaults.
Show threadTheButtonJustSpinsJul 15, 2023
I don’t like installing add-ons. I’d rather have it baked into the browser.
Show threadRvTV95XBeoJul 15, 2023

Add-ons give you a lot more choice and control than baked in options.

What’s stopping Brave’s blocker from just allowing ads from Brave’s services? Can you see under the hood to tell if it’s blocking everything or just surface level stuff?

A proprietary built in blocker is only as trustworthy as the people that made it, and as the links in this discussion suggest, Brave isn’t earning much trust.

Show threadMonologueJul 15, 2023
you are right about choice and more control but brave’s ad blocker is not proprietary here is the github link, ublock origin is still the king though
GitHub - brave/adblock-rust: Brave's Rust-based adblock engine

Brave's Rust-based adblock engine. Contribute to brave/adblock-rust development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Show threadMelpomeneJul 15, 2023
Of course, using add-ons also requires diligence, as each add-on from each source requires one to both trust the source and vet each source regularly. An add-on is also as trustworthy as the people that made it, and one must be willing to do the work the verify that those add-ons continue to be safe.
Show threadfrequencyJul 15, 2023
I think Brave did some aggressive marketing, including social media posts and comments. I did buy their narrative at first too - a browser that already tuned to block ads and trackers. But later I’ve noticed that it constantly connects back to brave server and it looked suspicious. Firefox is the best.
Show threadCrypticCoffeeJul 15, 2023
Agreed, a lot of Reddit comments felt very shilly. Firefox is king and helps prevent Google dictate web standards.
Show threadoblique_strategiesJul 16, 2023
Yeah, exactly. If every browser is chromium based the web will be an unhealthy monoculture. Easy for a single player to dictate standards. Haven’t seen this mentioned as much, but its really important
Show threadSyakaizinJul 16, 2023

For me, Firefox is an inferior product in terms of security feature implementation

…github.io/firefox-chromium.html

Firefox and Chromium | Madaidan's Insecurities

Show threadHughJanusJul 16, 2023
Stock Firefox has very limited privacy protections.
Show threaddngrayJul 28, 2023

ungoogled chromium exists

The reason is they have proper build infrastructure managed by the Brave. With Ungoogled Chromium the binaries are produced by third parties, vary in version etc. People claim they would only use “open source software” but they do download binary versions nevertheless and don’t compile that code themselves. This increases the risk of a supply chain attack, where a malicious binary is submitted and nobody has really knows until it is too late. The other issue is they disable CRLSets because of “google hate” which we think actually increases the likelihood of a MiTM attack occurring because rogue certificates are not detected and invalidated as quickly as they could have been.

This article describes a few other things qua3k.github.io/ungoogled/

GitHub - ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium: Google Chromium, sans integration with Google

Google Chromium, sans integration with Google. Contribute to ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium development by creating an account on GitHub.

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