agelordThose who tried Linux and went back to Windows, what caused you to go back to Windows?
It kept working.
Linux, every time, without fail, commits suicide after a few weeks/months. It’s never something big, always small stuff. A conf file which got fucked by a package. Init.d calls something stupid. Mbr bullshit.
And the same applies to get stuff to work. It’s not hard, but researching the issue and fixing it takes time. Those issues do not exist in windows.
It gets annoying. Windows, for all it’s shit has gotten more and more self repairing over the years.
I want to work. I want to play. Now, preferably.
Linux, every time, without fail, commits suicide after a few weeks
You must be doing something really wrong with it because on popular distros this is not really supposed to happen. If you encounter such issues report them to the devs. You probably want to try a more stable distro
There not doing anything wrong. This is my experience, as well as many many others. Why else would so many people and businesses overlook a completely free operating system? I’ve used all the “stable” distros.
If I reported issues to the devs, I wouldn’t be doing anything else, and it wouldn’t solve the problem I have TODAY. This is not a solution.
somedaysoonYou are doing something wrong. Linux doesn’t blow up by itself… my grandparents and wife both run it for the past 5 years and haven’t had a single issue with it.
Linux isn’t going to wall you in and prevent you from breaking it. That’s what I love about it, it gives you power and control over your machine, but if you don’t have the knowledge to wield that power, then you shouldn’t be fucking around with changing things. Stick with the package manager, and don’t fuck with system configs… unless you actually understand how it effects the system.
Why else would so many people and businesses overlook a completely free operating system
There are many, many reasons… not a single one is stability.
shapisIf you think that’s the case. Check some big forums for each big distro right after a point update to read the tales of woe and breakage.
My personal experience with this has been:
Pop_OS broke after an update. Unrepairable as far as I could tell. And I tried hard. Happened to multiple.people there was a reddit thread about it.
Fedora broke on an update. Not sure if repairable. I didn’t try. I had the most boring vanilla installation possible.
Arch has been unbootable twice over the years. And had to do many manual interventions. Both times it was fixable.
People are not lying to you when they say it breaks randomly. Just because it wasn’t your personal experience doesn’t mean it isn’t a common experience. You just got lucky.
If you think that’s the case. Check some big forums for each big distro right after a point update to read the tales of woe and breakage.
Again, Linux gives the user full control over it, and that includes the ability to break it… again, many people can not wield that power properly.
People are not lying to you when they say it breaks randomly. Just because it wasn’t your personal experience doesn’t mean it isn’t a common experience. You just have been lucky so far.
They are not lying, they are just too dumb to realize the thing they did to break it.
You just have been lucky so far.
It has nothing to do with luck…
Distros based on Debian? Redhat? Never fucking break…
If you read my previous comment. I’ve personally had a pop os and a fedora install break on updates.
The fedora update in particular was egregious in the sense that it was an extremely vanilla install. Done with the official installer. Nothing installed other than through flatpak and dnf.
And it isn’t an isolated case. You still think that people are lying or misinterpreting it when they say “hey, this randomly breaks. That’s why I’m back to windows”
If you really don’t believe the multitude of people saying this. I don’t think you will until it happens to you. Which is fine. Some people only learn from experience.
People are not lying to you when they say it breaks randomly. Just because it wasn’t your personal experience doesn’t mean it isn’t a common experience. You just have been lucky so far.
Your’e right people are not lying, they just don’t realize what they have done to break it. Linux is great because it gives the users full power… and that includes the power to break it. Windows babysits the user, and it doesn’t allow them to make changes that break it.
If you think that’s the case. Check some big forums for each big distro right after a point update to read the tales of woe and breakage.
So? A lot of dumb people use Linux too… just because dumb people break things doesn’t mean that Linux isn’t stable. There is a reason 90% of web and cloud infrastructure runs on Linux… it’s because it is the most secure and relieable/stable OS for it.
You just have been lucky so far.
Luck has nothing to do with it.
Your’e right people are not lying, they just don’t realize what they have done to break it.
I’m running a fresh Debian stable build for the past 2-3 days, with NO apt package installed, no other modifications, vanilla as vanilla gets, only flatpaks installed.
So far: On first install, apt upgrade was broken… lol… yeah. I can link you the bug if you want me to. Easy fix… but it was literally broken out of the box.
Other than that, it freezes on suspend, and I’m getting weird screen flickering that it’s really hard to troubleshoot so far, specially because when I turn on OBS it mysteriously just doesnt happen.
And this is with a distro known to be stable.
Why don’t you explain to me why I have not had any problems running 3 servers for the last 5 years. And why I’ve not had any problems running it on 6 other machines of varying desktops and laptops? Why don’t you explain to me why 90% of web and cloud infrastructure chooses Linux because it is so reliable and stable? I do everything in Linux… everything, including recording in OBS and video editing in Lightworks, no problems.
Again, if you are having this many problems, you fucked something up; the problem is you. I saw this comment the other day, “People hate Linux because shows they aren’t computer experts, they’re just Windows power users.” And I’d say that fits you.
Man. You seem upset.
You seem like you’re trying to avoid acknowledging you’re wrong.
Literally linked ya debian being broken out of the box. No user input required. Not sure how else to convince ya that even stable Linux distro a break on their own.
You seem to really struggle with simple concepts. What part of my argument do you think that counters? Because I never said Linux has 100% reliability. I said, Linux is more reliable than Windows.
What part of my argument do you think that counters?
This part:
You’re doing something wrong. Linux doesn’t blow up by itself…
Your first line.
CurseBunny“Why else would so many businesses overlook a completely free operating system”
Well, they don’t. Plenty of businesses use Linux systems. It’s not (only) because it’s free, though. The issue of licensing often isn’t a factor that comes into play over having a system that just works. It’s easy to customize, flexible and comparatively secure. Your experiences with Linux are valid, but many businesses and individuals do use it daily and for good reason.
Well, they don’t. Plenty of businesses use Linux systems.
Well they do. Plenty of businesses (ie: virtually all of them) use Windows. Those are the ones I was referring to.
This is just nonsense. Linux servers are all over the place. Google has its own internal distribution of Ubuntu! I feel like you’re not arguing in good faith, here.
This is just nonsense.
No. It’s not.
Linux servers are all over the place.
Linux servers are run by IT admin. AKA people who know how to use Linux.
I feel like you’re not arguing in good faith, here.
I feel like you’re making up bullshit arguments based on angry words you read on the Internet.
Yeah, businesses that use Linux generally hire people who know how to use Linux. I don’t think you actually know what you’re arguing about anymore, but you can do it by yourself. Hope things get better for you in the future.
Just because you aren’t able to understand what I’m saying doesn’t mean I don’t.