Here are the 70 House Republicans who voted to cut off all US military aid to Ukraine

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Here are the 70 House Republicans who voted to cut off all US military aid to Ukraine - Lemmy.world

Gaetz said they should focus on domestic issues instead, like republicans care about domestic issues

So let me get this straight……

The republicans are telling the democrats “stop sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine, spend it here in the USA”. The democrats are the ones controlling the spending, so they could spend it domestically to, for example, try and clean up the homeless criminal hell holes that at are places like San Francisco and LA.

You, clearly a democrat voter: “As if republicans care about domestic issues”, when it’s the democrats that are choosing to send all the money to Ukraine instead of caring about domestic issues.

Is that right?

Democrats are a right wing party of neoliberal capitalists and are not left wing at all. There is no American left at all, it literally doesn’t exist and to suggest that a party that is controlled by billion dollar business tycoons is left wing shows you extreme right wing brainwashing.

😂 Here in Australia I’m what you’d consider left leaning. I’m all for gay marriage, equal rights, anti-war, and so on. I’ve literally never voted “far right” or “conservative”. Not once in my 20+ years of voting.

But sure, pretend that the democrats aren’t left wing because….reasons.

Btw the second you accuse others of being brainwashed just because you disagree with them, you’re the extreme one in the conversation.

Left wing means replacing the corporate board members with workers and building robust social welfare. The democrats have pulled back welfare in my lifetime, passed a right-wing health care plan and now funds the military which is traditionally a right wing and not left wing American position

You are brainwashed because you just spout media lies about places like LA where I actually live

Again with the brainwashed accusation 😂

What you think is left wing and what is actually left wing are very different.

If self awareness was a disease you’d be the healthiest man alive.

Kinda? I mean at least by European standards Democrats are kinda conservative. Not necessarily right wing, but also not left.
A government that intervenes to stop a strike is not left wing. Rainbow corporatocracy is still corporatocracy and your attempt to erase 3/4ths of the political spectrum by charwcterizing neoliberalism as “left” is laughable.

Republicans control the House.

However, when the Dems did recently control the House, they managed to pass the infrastructure act, and the inflation reduction act, two huge pieces of domestic legislation.

When the Rs had the House, Senate, and White House from 2016-18, they refused to pass any kind of infrastructure act, despite that being one of the cornerstones of the Trump campaign. The only thing they really did was pass a tax cut for the wealthiest Americans that raised taxes in the middle class and increased the deficit.

Now that you mention it, what ever happened to infrastructure week that Trump promised back in 2017?
Same thing that happened with every Trump promise that would have made positive social change, they were lies.

It’s kind of crazy to see someone who clearly loves their own voice, but clearly doesn’t understand what the fuck they’re talking about.

Back to the kiddie pool, Nazi.

😂 You know you’ve lost the second you start calling people a nazi in the middle of a regular conversation.
Go look at where and how that money is being spent. I think you will find that the vast majority of it isn’t leaving America. American businesses who already do business with the American government will do a little bit more, sending consumables and other assets to Ukraine. From an economic standpoint this is little different than a 10% increase in the American military budget, with the bonus of no expectation that it will be the new baseline going forward.
A 10% increase on the biggest part of your budget by far is a ridiculous increase.
Giving a trillion dollars to businesses with no oversight is also a ridiculous expendititure, but also 10 times more than this and happily supported by the Republicans. Or the tens of trillions spent in the Middle East over the last couple decades. This relatively minor expense is cheap political good will with a massive ROI.

Giving a trillion dollars to businesses with no oversight is also a ridiculous expendititure, but also 10 times more than this and happily supported by the Republicans.

That’s not funding a proxy war though. Kinda different.

Sometimes the only options are war or capitulation. I guess if Ukraine had just stopped…existing…next to Russia this could have all been avoided. How foolish of them.
Those aren’t the options available to America though. America wouldn’t be “capitulating” by not sending $100bil along with weapons and military vehicles to ukraine.

From an economic standpoint this is little different than a 10% increase in the American military budget

Is that supposed to be a selling point?

No, just pointing out that even though the military support is going to Ukraine, the economic benefits are still primarily American.
If you consider further bloating military spending to be a benefit, sure
Reread my original comment. And this is probably the last thing you want to cut. Leaving allies twisting in the wind when you pushed for nuclear deproliferation with the assurance you would help protect them from their enemies (Russia in particular) will cost America far more that $100 billion.
Do elaborate on how some backwater eastern Europe shithole would cost us hundreds of billions as a inept paper tiger wastes resources on it.
As a general rule, when governments make deals with other countries and don’t do what they say, it tends to sour their negotiations with other countries. And that backwater country is the seventh largest exporter worldwide of a staple crop (it used to sell more before a certain war started). Now, America probably doesn’t import much wheat from Ukraine, but there’s a funny thing about globally traded commodities…

As a general rule, when governments make deals with other countries and don’t do what they say, it tends to sour their negotiations with other countries

And I care if a bunch of eurotrash wants to leave the table for negotiation? Good riddance.

send “all the money”? That alone tells me you have no understanding of American aid to Ukraine, both in scale and in nature. It’s neither “all” nor is it “money” - the Americans sent old military hardware for the most part, and the monetary value is barely a drop in the bucket compared just to their yearly military expenditure that they’d spend regardless. Actual monetary support is much more of a EU thing anyways.

But sure keep whining about centre-right policies of the USA and the EU, calling them “far-left”. Get your head out the gutter, actual far-left people are not supportive of Ukraine.

We’re sending old military equipment to Ukraine, and that equipment was specifically made in case we have to fight Russia one day. So it’s pretty much being used for its original intent.

homeless criminal hell holes that at are places like San Francisco and LA.

Have you ever been to either city? Because that is not in any way a fair description. Anyway, don’t people like you usually use Chicago for this sort of aspersion?

People are literally just walking out of stores with stolen goods at will. People are doing drugs on the streets out in the open. People are breaking into cars in broad daylight.

Are these things not happening despite all the video evidence and new articles about it happening?

Got it. You’ve never actually been there. Maybe don’t base all the things you know about a city from YouTube videos.
It’s common Republican lingo to refer to California, and anywhere wherein, as a “hellhole”.
Despite never having set foot in California, or they’d realize how much of a shithole the place they live in is in comparison.

Anyway, don’t people like you usually use Chicago for this sort of aspersion?

Nah, that’s for when they want to mix some anti-black racist dogwhistling in, too.

I know you’re just a loser posting obvious trolls because you don’t have anything good to do with your life.

But you do realise you’re crying about “far left bias” on an ammendment that got shot down with MASSIVE bi-partisan support? Like, again, I get its just a troll comment but you’re still implying the majority of republicans are far-left. Maybe next time go for something more believable, or better yet, go outside and make some freinds instead.