GrenadineBombardierWisconsin judge sides with 11-year-old trans girl over her right to use school toilets
ilovetacosGood! Republicans need to get over their obsession with trans children’s genitals.
I think it’s more about the discomfort for other children. I understand not wanting to use the boys bathroom but I can also see little girls being uncomfortable with it. I don’t see why we can’t give them their own safe space.
dismalnowYour thought is valid.
But what I wanted to tell you is that based upon my kids, their friends, and other people's kids that I know and talk to - very VERY few of them give a single fuck about this sort of thing. Like surprisingly few.
It's refreshing, because it's truly no big deal.
I hear you, but that’s a very small sample size. One of my friends is a trans man, and even though he’s my friend and I’m the first person he came out to it still feels weird when he walks into the bathroom with me. I can imagine how someone that isn’t comfortable would feel. I don’t see any detriment to giving trans people their own space where they can be comfortable and let everyone else be comfortable too. Same goes for sports.
and even though he’s my friend and I’m the first person he came out to it still feels weird when he walks into the bathroom with me.
That’s a you problem, and it’s up to you to get over.
Why should a majority conform to a very small minority?
The majority of people think your transphobia is disgusting and not something we want perpetuated. It’s a myth to think your way of thinking is anything normal. Most people don’t think about other people’s genitals as much as you do. We just go pee and never give other people any thought.
Please change your path before you’re too far gone.
Change my path before I’m too far gone? My man what’re you on about?
They're on about your transphobia, my man.
Can you please elaborate on what part actually makes you uncomfortable. Because it’s kind of coming off like you just don’t want trans people in your space. I’m going to call you a bigot but please try and reflect on what is bothering you.
The cult had spoken
Bunch of people with similar values is not a cult.
Great story
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Did you just ‘cool story bro’ me?
Yeah…. I did
So that’s where we are now? It’s reduced to this?
This is all that’s left of us.
jeffwWeird how you refuse to respond and explain how this is different from Jim Crow-style segregation where White people said Black people made them uncomfortable
Respond to what? What are you talking about?
tallwookielol who made you the spokesman for the majority?
I did, sorry. Was that not right?
And my axe!
Look at this thread. Right here, right now, you’re the very small, very small minded minority.
We’re on lemmy, a predominantly bit farther than irl people left community. People got so mad about me saying it might be easier and better to give trans people their own space that they’re saying I’m on the wrong side of history while pretending that I hate trans people. I don’t hate trans people, I just don’t think anyone should be forced to be uncomfortable because of them.
You’re making people uncomfortable, you tiresome little shit stain. Fuck off to your own space.
Should we make separate bathrooms for non white people too?
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They’re not proposing that seriously. It’s a thought exercise to get the other user to consider how discriminatory they’re being agaist people who “aren’t like them.”
I agree, but to me, the username really matched, that’s quite a dark thought.
Looks like my humor whiffed this time.
I don’t hate trans people, I just don’t think anyone should be forced to be uncomfortable because of them.
You’re scratching your head at why people are mad at you, but it’s probably because you’re trying to find some compromise between being pro and anti trans - two diametrically opposed ideas. You’re point seems to boil down to: “I’m not transphobic, but trans people might make people uncomfortable, and we should also consider that.”. But, why should be? Trans people making you feel icky is a piss-poor reason to say they can’t use their preferred bathroom. People were concerned about Gay people and Black people in the same spaces as straight/white for a big chunk of the last century, it’s the same reactionary bullshit as always.
TurboDieselI’ve said it before, and I’ll say it a million times: your ick is your problem. (The general you) Just like your triggers are your problem. No one gets to dictate how the rest of the world operates because something makes them feel grody or triggers them.
What if a male isn’t trans but wants to use the women’s restroom?
I don’t think they should be punished unless they’re being a pest.
How would you even enforce that? Are you going to have a bouncer at the door checking to see which genitals somebody has before they can enter the restroom?
It could sort of be enforced by assuming what sex people are.
The hypothetical male in question isn’t an exception to how most men look or behave.
Who would be enforcing it? And how?
I mean, enforcing it really isn’t the point of my question.
I was just curious how you felt about that situation.
Like I said: I don’t think they should be punished unless they’re being a pest.
Since we’re talking about feelings, though: How would you feel if you weren’t allowed to use the restroom of your gender?
I don’t really care so long as the toilet works.
It’s just that there’s always something. Always someone inventing problems or trying to skirt any minor inconvenience, real or perceived, by sheer laziness.
Yesterday it was masks and today it’s the fucking toilet, tomorrow what will it be? Handicapped ramps? I don’t think you hate trans people but you’re in that tiny minority of joyless ghouls that would rather piss off everybody than move a muscle to accommodate a need they don’t have.
It’s shit attitude and when I read this kind of take I just think “how do these poor people even function at work if they can’t align on a simple thing like that”.
If this was the 1950s you would be saying " I don’t hate black people, I just don’t think anyone should be forced to be uncomfortable because of them." with regards to sharing a water fountain or a lunch counter. That’s all I can think of when I read your message. Your a bigot, plain and simple
Isn’t this just an argument against your point of view? Most people I’ve ever talked to don’t care as long as the trans individual is minding their own business, why should the majority conform to a very small minority who is uncomfortable?
All that’s being asked is that people mind their business in public restrooms. See someone who looks a little different? Cool, wash your hands and leave. If a trans person is being a creep in a bathroom, kick them out the same way you would kick out anyone else being a creep. The other 99.9% of the time, just mind your own business and let people pee and wash their hands in peace.
Would you be okay with a man using the women’s bathroom if he isn’t trans?
It’s not my job to do genital inspections at the door.
Pooping is pooping. Idc of the person next to me is white, black, man, woman, child, or mysteriousblobofgreenoo. Just make sure to flush and wash your hands when you’re done.
So you would be okay with a man using the women’s bathroom even if he isn’t trans.
For someone with Uncle Iroh as your username, you sure aren’t as understanding as your namesake. I think you’re more like Zuko at the beginning of his journey; only thinking about himself and his needs.
Imagine being so triggered by someone using a stall near you. As a man, I wouldn’t care if a woman came into the gents and used a stall. Why would I care? Anyone in the bathroom is there to do their business and get out, not to look at your little fella.
MegaUltraChickenNotice how when you make a point you get a deluge of comments explaining how you’re being an asshole? That’s how the majority of people feel about intolerant assholes. You’re the minority here, and every piece of available evidence supports that.
Alright, you lost me.
You don't have to conform. You have to learn that it makes no difference at all.
Your problem is “My way or the highway”
It's called human rights. You can either accept them, or move to a country that does not value them.
What a limp response, I’m confused as to what it has to do with my reply??
Yes, you seem very confused about a lot of things. I guess that makes it scary for you. Maybe should've stayed on Reddit with all the other bigots.
Cringe, why I’m I a bigot? What had Reddit got to do with anything?
Sorry but I won't feed you any longer.
You’re an odd person
For fuck sake why are these removed? Are we not allowed to discuss this stuff? I was hoping this reddit shit wouldn’t carry over.
PabloDiscobarDon't answer to @DarkThoughts, he is a troll who is mass downvoting comments of people disagreeing with him, from their history. I noticed that some of my comments were downvoted for absolutely no reason and that was him.
Darkthoughts, if you keep doing this I'll report you to the admins of your main instance.
I already told you that I mass downvoted you after you mass downvoted me. Also, me stopping to feed the troll is not trolling. You're literally turning your trolling into harassment now. I already reported you and will continue to do so too.
Liar!
Don't talk to this guy.
Sure buddy. You literally followed me here to tell me your spin again, but I'm the alleged troll. Keep digging yourself in deeper.