Libreddit and Teddit are practically dead

https://lemmy.world/post/1443403

Libreddit and Teddit are practically dead - Lemmy.world

It appears API rate limiting has effectively killed these alternatives. You essentially get nothing but “Too many requests” 429 errors. Lemmy sadly does not have the active niche news and discussions I want. But now nothing can be read without going to Reddit. I hate Spez

There’s that one Lemmy instance that has a bot that posts content scrapped from Reddit, I forgot the name though.
Lemmit - A Reddit to Lemmy crossposting instance.

Lemmy

It seems to mostly cover the big subs.
Did you request him to a add the ones you want?
Just request the ones you want here and it will start syncing them. Make sure you subscribe after the communities are made (takes a few minutes) or the dev will disable the bot on those communities. The more people who subscribe, the more often it checks for updates. lemmit.online/c/requests
Request a subreddit - Lemmit

# Request a subreddit Make requests for new subreddits/communities here, using the name of the subreddit as the title, or with a link to the subreddit as the url. For anything else, go to [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [/c/[email protected]]. ## Requests for NSFW subs should be marked as such. They often have nsfw thumbnails, and will show up unblurred on other servers. ## Warning: Use common sense when requesting. Comments are not copied over. So requests for explainLikeImFive or askMidgets are useless, since you’ll never get the answers here. Also keep in mind that each sub you request here takes resources to process forevermore. So, you know, show some restraint.

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]
I know some people don't like these bots, but I'm keen on the cross posting. Bringing the idea to this platform and then people can discuss it. It's mostly the discussions that have the best value anyway 🦙
I think the idea of having crossposted content is ok since you can opt in or out of seeing it, just looked through the instance though and it seems like nobody is interacting with the content at all. For me, my favorite part of the posts on Reddit was reading through the conversations in the comments. Imo, if nobody is interacting with the content that is being crossposted we shouldn’t bother with continuing to copy it over
Just wait, the devs will find a way.

difficult till almost impossible. i recently started coding my own client for reddit (i wanted a way to still get nsfw content when thirdparty clients go dead), and reddit is fucking annoying as hell. everything you do… they smash issues towards you. every time shitty 429 errors (rate limiting) even if you are logged in. just using a useragent of a normal browser gets you ratelimited. so spoofing a normal browser don’t works. sending a bit too much requests (like the Stealth app who is basically a parser for reddits website) gets your device ip banned. if you then open reddit in browser, they smash a error in your face that basically says “fuck you, we think you are a bot. gtfo.”.

bypassing this rate limiting is almost impossible even if you try to spoof a browser. i tried the last few days and just gave up because its too annoying and buggy. the whole system of reddit is so annoying as a developer to work with.

I was trying to be positive,but after reading their announcement on github not so much anymore. Thank you for explaining in deep way is not possible to find a workaround.

the biggest issue is that they detect thirdparty clients coded as a website parser on their server and just block you. and bypassing this isn’t really working well because of the rate limiting.

example: i just did send 3 requests where i first logged in, then asked for the recent posts of a sub… and already after this 2 requests i got rate limited by error 429 and couldn’t send any requests anymore.

so even just requesting the recent posts in a sub is an issue (with spoofed browser useragent). if you use a “legit” useragent it works better, but reddit exactly knows you’re using a thirdparty client and can block or ban you whenever they feel like. so it’s not really a good solution because every minute reddit could hit the killswitch. just not worth the time to develope a app if it gets killed off then anyway.

So no hope, I get it.
based on the knowledge, i would say nah. but maybe there is somewhere on the internet a genius who can somehow gets it to work stable enough… who knows.

See I thought that Beehaw.org was theLemmy instance for news, as it’s supposed to be a well moderated instance, am I incorrect in that assumption?

Also it would be nice if Beehaw’s mods approved my account so that I could use that instance for those purposes.

I’m like you OP, my main focus on Reddit was staying up-to-date on the most current events and technology/science based posts, the sort I generally used on Reddit was “Top this Hour” because that seemed to be the most reliable and up-to-date hourly news as the news rolled in.

Another thing that helped greatly was Reddit is Fun’s content filtering capabilities. Because who tf wants to read some bullshit from Fox News or other severely corrupted and biased news sources?

Beehaw isn’t great to be a source for news since they defederated two of the largest (from what I can tell) instances.

See I thought that Beehaw.org was the Lemmy instance for news, as it’s supposed to be a well moderated instance, am I incorrect in that assumption?

I just started a US and World news community on my instance (had federation issues with Beehaw and a lot of stuff randomly didn’t come through in either direction). I contributed to the moderation policies they use for their news sub, and the community I put together has even tougher standards than that.

If you’re interested, here’s a post I put together with the standards for posts and the moderation policies: dubvee.org/post/58845

Community link: /c/[email protected]

[Meta] About This Community, Submission Guidance, Standards, and Moderation Policy - DubVee

### About This is a curated news community with high standards for submissions. Mis- and disinformation are rampant on the internet, and the rules established for this community are an attempt to curtail that and provide a reliable and objective source of world events. News posted here should not be sensationalized in order to be entertaining; it should be factual and accurate and written with the sole intention of informing the reader to the situation. #### How are News Sources Confirmed to be Unbiased and/or Reputable? When in doubt, I will run a news source through Media Bias Fact Check [https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/exclusive-source-bias-ratings-search/] in order to determine its bias and credibility. While this isn’t perfect, it’s a very good and highly rated tool ran by a non-profit organization. If a source’s bias is determined to be far-left or far-right, the post will be removed and you’ll be asked to resubmit the story from a more neutral and/or credible source. ### Community Rules Explained #### Rule #1: Reputable Sources With Low Bias All posts must be from a reputable news source that is known to report factually, in good faith, and without significant bias. I’m not naive, and I would consider very few news sources to be completely unbiased (AP and Reuters are the closest that come to mind). That said, most reputable sources of news will report the facts in good faith and leave the rest up to the reader to decide for themselves. Reputable sources do not speculate on every topic nor “just ask questions” to the reader. Reputable sources do not tell you how you should feel about a topic or tell you what you should think about it; they merely provide you the facts of the situation, informing you to make your own opinion. The good faith part is key here. There are lot of news sources that are technically “news” but are known to operate in bad faith and/or with a highly partisan angle. I will not list any specifically, but they are out there, and they are rampant. Additionally, do not link to tabloids, blogs, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, or other social media. Those are not news sources. They are rarely, if ever, confirmed or fact checked, have no journalistic standards, and are usually rife with opinion. #### Rule #2: Do Not Editorialize the Title The post title must match the headline. I don’t think this really requires further explanation. #### Rule #3: Original Source is Mandatory Posts must have the original article source as the post URL. Let’s face it. Many of us are busy and often don’t bother to read the entire article. We’ll just scroll through a news feed, look at the headlines, and add the tidbit of information in the headline to our collective knowledge. The danger with that is that those headlines may be from a non-reputable news source which is fully aware of that habit and seek to exploit it with sensationalized titles or misrepresented facts. In the feed, the source URL is directly adjacent to the headline/title, so having an indicator of the source, front and center, is an easy way to quickly discern the source of the information you’re absorbing and whether it should be trusted. If you use an archive or other paywall-bypassing link as the post URL, the source is obfuscated. That allows a tabloid or mis- / disinformation headline to carry the same weight as one from a reputable source. Similarly, do not include your own image even if the post image fails to load. The source URL will be that of the image and not the article which will prevent the source from being apparent. To include an archive link that sidesteps a paywall, include that in the top of the post body. #### Rule #4: Be Civil in the Comments Be civil in the comments. No hate speech, bigotry, racism or any dog-whistle versions of any of that. If you need me to elaborate on this any further than that, then you probably shouldn’t bother commenting at all. #### Rule #5: No Bot-Generated Summaries Do not include bot-generated summaries of the article. Let people read for themselves. Bot summaries are hit or miss and often leave out nuance, perspective, or other pertinent details that are important to the story. If someone prefers a bot to TL;DR things for them, then they’ll likely already have some plugin/process of their own to do that. Leave them to that process and allow the rest of us to read the articles as the authors intended. #### Rule #6: Do Not Editorialize the Post Similar to rule #2, do not editorialize in the post. Any opinions you have about the news story should be in the comments. ### Moderation Policy The rules in this community are strictly enforced. Infringing posts will be removed as soon as they are known. That said, I strongly believe in transparency, so here is the protocol for how posts are moderated: - If your post is found to be infringing on a rule, you will receive a reply from a mod/admin stating which rule was broken and in what way. - The infringing post will be locked for further comments and removed. As far as I know, you should still be able to see the post in your profile and still see the reply from the mod/admin in your notifications. If this turns out to not be the case, this procedure will be adjusted to compensate for that. - Depending on the nature of the rule violation, one of the following will happen after that: - You will be encouraged to resubmit after making the necessary corrections. (e.g. If you accidentally used an archive link for the source, you’ll be asked to resubmit with the original URL) - You will be specifically told not to resubmit the post (e.g. you’ve linked to a tabloid/non-reputable source) Repeat offenders will face a temporary or ultimately permanent ban. This isn’t baseball, and it’s not a three-strikes policy; it depends more on which rule was broken, how often, and in what way(s). That said, some rule violations are more egregious than others. Repeatedly submitting non-reputable news sources after receiving warnings will result in a ban. Being uncivil in the comments will also get you a ban. Continued violations after temporary bans are lifted will ultimately result in a permanent ban from the community. The other rules are important, but it’s easy to forget, so infractions to those will typically be dealt with more leniently. However, consistently (and/or flagrantly) violating them can end up with a ban from the community, especially if you are non-responsive when asked to bring them into compliance with the community rules.

Create an account at lemm.ee. Great instance and federated with beehaw, so you can enjoy the content if you wish.

Take a look at this post. Maybe the GitHub repo mentioned there can help.

lemmit.online/post/76199

Lemmitors who request subreddits that are useless without the comments, I created a bot that scrapes comments as well - Lemmit

See the bot in action here! ### My instance running Leddit [https://leddit.danmark.party/] Click here for a more detailed explanation about the bot’s purpose [https://feddit.nu/post/41589] This bot is intended to be self-hosted. Unfortunately, I can’t operate a public instance that takes subreddit requests because of how long syncing comments takes. For comparison, Lemmit takes 21 minutes to sync all of the subreddits on this instance using the old system, but Leddit takes the same amount of time to sync 3 subreddits with around 500k subscribers each once an hour. Smart syncing is planned, but it won’t decrease the amount of time taken to sync big and active subreddits. If you need help setting up an instance, feel free to ask questions in this thread or on the Leddit instance’s community [https://leddit.danmark.party/c/lounge].

Im not sure I agree here, I host my own libreddit instance and I have no issues with rate limits. I would highly recommend going your own instance if you can
I have checked multiple instances, and everyone has the same trouble. And I have no idea how to host my own instance.
It’s probably an issue with the instances having too many users instead of libreddit being broken. It might be worth trying to find a smaller instance or trying to host your own. Hosting libreddit was my first step into hosting services using docker and it was surprisingly easy
Nope, it’s the API changes: github.com/libreddit/libreddit/issues/840
Libreddit's Public Instances are Shutting Down · Issue #840 · libreddit/libreddit

⚠️ PUBLIC INSTANCE SHUT DOWN ⚠️ As of July 12th, 2023, Libreddit is currently not operational as Reddit's API changes, that were designed to kill third-party apps and content scrapers who don't pay...

GitHub
I can’t test mine right now as it’s only accessible on the internal network and I’m not home. But it was working when I last used it a few days ago, I think it might be a combination of the the api changes and public instance being overloaded with too many requests and hitting the new api limits. When I can I will test my instance and let you know if it still works, If it does I would recommend that you do look into hosting your own as it will provide even more privacy than a public instance and will lesson the load on the public instances. Feel free to ask me any questions about hosting libreddit (or teddit) if you do decide to host it yourself!
How come Focus for Reddit is still working? Even NSFW is unblocked there
The app is still using the dev API token, the dev didn’t revoke the token and created a new one for the API changes.
If it’s abandoned the app will continue to work.

Go to the settings, ping the instances, and add a handful with good ping.

I cycle through 3-4 instances using the keyboard shortcut (Ctrl + Alt + L is the default but you can change it via your brower's extension settings) and usually find one that's up and running.

I usually just go to an instance itself. Sounds like you are using an extension?
Ahhh yeah, my bad, it's libredirect
LibRedirect - Privacy-friendly Redirector

A web extension that redirects YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, etc. requests to alternative privacy-friendly frontends

libredirect.github.io
Thanks. I found an instance that is working better, but still with a lot of errors.
Creating a new sub so I'm a moderator brought Boost back to life. Maybe that will help here?

Is there an offline archive alternative? I don’t need up to date comments. Most the times that I am forced to use reddit it is for solutions to technical problems posted years ago.

Or is there an offline database for Reddit that you can download like with wikipedia? If you go by text only or could choose communities that probably wouldn’t be too much data.

I feel like this needs to be done soon if it doesn’t already exist because Reddit is probably going to copy Musk again.

There was the Pushshift project, which archived all of Reddit’s posts and comments in text (JSON) form. You can download the data here: posts, comments.

If you’re on Linux, once you have downloaded and extracted the respective file, you could run something like grep -m 1 ‘“id”:“11eoagd”’ RS_2023-03 | jq, where 11eoagd is the post ID. It’s not pretty, but it works.

Libreddit does work, but not all instances of it do.
A few I’ve found. But your subscriptions don’t carry between instances, and it’s hard try and cycle through them on mobile. And even then after a few minutes they start failing.
if you really want reddit use old reddit or still working libreddit instances
I was trying to avoid giving reddit traffic.
welp guess that means you don’t want to use Reddit
Be the change you want to see.
Talking to myself about niche topics like bourbon, civil engineering, my local city and state, and what not is boring. There just isn’t the user base here to have active discussions on such narrow topics.
I know where you’re coming from. Give it some time. This whole thing sucks, but it’ll get sorted out eventually.

But now nothing can be read without going to Reddit

I’m here right now! Reading to my hearts content

Well, Reddit is practically dead, too. Just give it another six months or so of bad decision making, and whenever that IPO is going to drop.
There were some discussions among the teddit hosts about attempting to use scraping instead, but it’s not easy and requires a lot of changes to the code. Not to mention it’s going to quickly become a cat and mouse game if reddit makes changes to their site. It’s just not worth it at this point. Reddit doesn’t want us.