give me any reason to doubt that she isn’t committed to the guidelines, principles and values that we have written into our joint government program (Petteri nods reassuringly).”
First, thats 3 things but whos counting here. Second, the common guidelines are hostile to poor and sick people, working class as well as to immigrants either directly or indirectly. Some (like me) might argue that the government program itself firms the hold structural racism has in our country. #naziJokePrimeMinister
Your principles are “give money to richest and take it from the poorest”. Values are, well, utter shitstorm of a nonsense.
Third, YOU CAN NOT SAY YOU. excuse me, cannot say that you condemn something strongly and then lead with a “but” and a list of excuses. for fucks sake. #naziJokePrimeMinister #naziJokeGoverment
my dear spouse has volunteered to watch the whole thing so i dont have to since even listening and translating that first minute long speech was immensely difficult for me and just make me listen the important parts.
even just in that speech above, there are already several things that need corrections, fact checking and probably someone who doesn’t get pissed at everything he manages to say. The conference is 45 minutes. You probably get why i need help watching it.
there’s honestly too much shit in that one conference. lets go through some of it, i probably continue tomorrow since im getting tired.
“Orpo: In the beginning of parliament work in the fall, we will vote for the trust in government.”
i just have no words. #naziJokePrimeMinister
i’m just going through what Yle has lifted since it’s easier to translate written text than video full on nonsense.
“my zero tolerance to racism means that we have guidelines here somewhere and if someone doesn’t follow i’ll talk to them about the guidelines. no you cannot see the guidelines, next question.” #naziJokeMinister #naziJokeGovernment
Question to Purra:
again, scroll up and read those apologies and first “outputs” over there.
Next up: Orpo explains that these things are harder than usual.
And he is asked why they’re harder than usual.
Orpo is asked about the upcoming visit to Germany and Purra about her visit to Brussel.
Same shit, another nonapology.
you know what, that press conference gave nothing new so i am not combing it through.
nazi-Riikka offered nonapologies, Orpo the wet mitten pledged his alliance to the nazies, nazi-Riikka was asked what she thinks of the double standard informing that her party is doing atm “i dont practice that myself” (a lie), journalists tried to ask different questions and got the same script answer to every single one of them, government is held together with the power of apologies. #naziJokeGovernment
“they’re old texts” that’s no excuse. there are also newer racist text written by you at least from 2021 and last time you spoke highly about scripta was 5 months ago.
“i was young” you were over 30 years old. that excuse expired around the time you turned 25 and your brain stopped developing.
“that was a joke” yeah, like Junnilas personal history, Halla-Ahos manifestos, current double information campaign performance that undermines your so called apologies, all are? #naziJokeGovernment
here are even newer texts from financial minister Riikka Purra, written just 3 days before being elected to the parliament.
one must admit that the words chosen are indeed different as she has pointed out many times (“i wouldn’t talk in the same way or use same words anymore”). but the essential message is still the same, just written more plainly to hide it from those who do not recognise racism even if it bites them in the ass. #naziJokeGovernment
content and trigger warning: racism
points from those texts: nah thats still racism. yes thats definitely racism even if you call it that.
also she says its in the core of BF politics to “help the poorest finns first” and now they’re in the government that plans to defund social security more than ever in the history of Finland. and they signed and helped form the cutting filled government program.
so its not even about helping, its about shitting on as many tables as humanly possible. #naziJokeGovernment #naziJokeMinister
Justice minister Leena Meri (BF) has shut down a goverment program and the website called “Olen antirasisti” (i am an antiracist) in complete silence. This is probably one of those things that come as a complete surprise to our wet mitten of a prime minister.
It does seem that the zero tolerance prime minister Orpo broadcasts so loudly in any change he gets, is not towards racism, but antiracism. I guess he wants to help build anti-antiracism.
(source: Häiriköt-päämaja fb) #naziJokeGovernment
Petteri Orpo on A-talk 12.7.2023.
Presenter: nickname riikka has written various racist texts, one to highlight “if someone would give me a gun, there would be bodies (even in) my commuter train”. How do you feel about that?
Orpo: these are obnoxious words that have been raised from texts and i cannot in anyway accept those. thats why i feel its necessary that Riikka Purra has resigned of these words, racism and violence and has apologised for these 15 year old words.” #naziJokePrimeMinister
P: there’s a lot of other violent writings. so now with your hand on your heart, tell me, did you not know Purra and Junnila have been saying … & that these will rise to question in the government period?
Orpo: With my hand on my heart, i can say that i did not know. What has risen from the past years or Purra and Junnila I can say i didn’t know. It was clear and known that some writings exist, i thought those had been handled in public. - #naziJokePrimeMinister
P: what texts were you aware of beforehand?
Orpo: I guess of those that have been available for the public and have been handled universally about BF politicians texts. I felt that these things are universally known, have been handled and the government negotiations are done, elections are done, government program with clear entries are done. That’s where i’m coming from with 4 government worthy parties and their ministers. #naziJokePrimeMinister
P: but didn’t you take into account the so called political risks for these?
Orpo: In every government solutions there are political risks. Of course (!) I estimated and had to estimate in the early (stages of forming a) goverment, with which parties I will go to the negotiation. And still i estimate also and very much that with which parties is it possible to handle the 3 big challenges around Finland. War in Ukraine continues, economical and dept crisis at hand. -
#naziJokePrimeMinister
P: Right. Anyway, lets take a step back from the government program. Purra couldn’t come to here today, but she did not apologise for those texts on Monday when they were lifted into publicity. The apology was made on Thursday. So, how believable the apology actually is? This question rises many times in those received from the public.
Orpo: It was really extremely important that Purra was there in the press conference TODAY to answer the questions by media. -
P: What makes you believe her (Purra)?
Orpo: I suppose you have to trust a person and if someone apologises, I suppose that has meaning too.
P: hmph. Well this too is a topic that we have received a lot of questions for from the public. In the year 2019 Purra has written in her blog, in the year 2019 I mean, that “there are unrecognisable black sacks walking around in the capitol, whom you recognise as humans only because they usually pull small human beings behind them”. How does this sound, especially from the basis of trust? Actually this blog entry is still available to read on internet.
Orpo continues: - It (racism) doesn’t belong in this country and its doesn’t belong in our governments principles, not in our work either. That is what I take completely and our government take that off too.
(okay willow here, i think he tried very hard in that last sentence to say that they resign from racism as a government but i had to leave the literal translation there cause its way too hilarious. little racist rockets.) #naziJokePrimeMinister #naziJokeGoverment
P: But does it have some meaning that the other text was 15 years old and this one is from 2019? How do you evaluate this as the leader of the government? This time perspective.
Orpo: I evaluate this the same way, that she (Riikka Purra) has regretted, apologised for them, announced that she doesn’t accept racism or violence and would not write those things any more now.
P: hmph.
Presenter continues: Did you push Purra to apologise?
Orpo: She made her own decisions.
P: You didn’t push her in anyway?
Orpo: *sighs* She made her own decision, this must have been very difficult for her to go through with her past that have been brought here in front of everyone. It is correct by us all politicians that, that the media does its job and civil society does its job. And it’s also correct that she apologised loud and clear. *nods reassuringly*
#naziJokePrimeMinister
P: Did you have a discussion with Purra (Orpo talking over the rest) before the apology?
Orpo: We have had a lot of conversations, but she made her own decision by herself.
P: Do you still think in these discussions that (Orpo talking over again).
Orpo: I think she made the right decision.
P: But did you say to her that she should (Orpo talking again) apologise?
Orpo: She made the right decision.
P: Alrighty then, let’s move forward. 😅
P: The government published a press release yesterday, in which it sweared to be committed to human rights and to respecting human dignity and today you underlined the same in press conference. What does it speak of the government when these kind of obvious things have to be specifically mentioned and underlined in a western justice state?
Orpo: I would say it speaks of Finland, of this western justice state, that, that this society doesn’t condone racism, -
Orpo continues still: we wanted to gather all of them in the same statement.
P: But the question was about how it made you feel that you had to underline this again after the government program that has the same things written?
Orpo: Of courses it didn’t feel good, but since the situation demanded it I estimated that we do this and it was important that we acted fast with day long negotiations and when you add this to that we also informed that we give parliament government notice-
P: Well it’s been about three weeks now and it has been quite a spectacle (monkey business & circus are also valid translations) so far, what is happening on the path of the government now?
Orpo: What’s happening is that we will go throughout discussion about what and who is in the government and what kind of politics it does. We want to make it clear still, we have excellent government program that answers challenges of Finland and that same GP has clear entries about -
Orpo continues: what principles, for the principles of a free western democracy we have committed to. My part as a prime minister is to make sure those happen and that the government program is fixed. I really hope that we get through this fish cleaning and that the government and its ministers get to implement this great government program because Finland needs it.
(fucks sake.) #naziJokePrimeMinister
P: Now to the headlines, some of the opposition parties demand that the parliament returns from summer break to vote about the confidence in minister of finances, Riikka Purra. What is your opinion?
Orpo: It’s no necessary. The government is able to function, for example i have watched today as the foreign affairs minister has done a great job in NATO summit where Finland is for the first time. Riikka Purra the minister of finances is leaving to EcoFi (?) Europe commit next week -
P: mmhm.
Orpo continues: we’ve made the guidelines for the governments EU ministers and we have a good working order. We are pushing forward legislation projects that are completely in line with the government program. Everything works, but we must of course get through this swarming discussion so we can then concentrate on the real work.
P: You are underlining the governments ability to work together and be able to function, but today in the press conference Purra said that “these things will not end”. So what does that mean, more scandals ahead?
Orpo: I believe she thinks that discussion around government politicians will continue in. But as I said, it’s good that these things are sorted through, backgrounds are sorted through, and if is necessary come to conclusions like the resignation of minister Junnila. but now-
P: So you see that these (resignations) things can be coming?
Orpo: No. I dont see that, I dont have any intel for that sorts of things but -
P: Have you prepared after all this?
Orpo: In politics, and in world in general, you learn that all the time it’s possible to be surprised, and oh boy have we had enough of those in these 3 weeks.
P: so should i interpret that you have prepared?
Orpo: You have to be. But i hope this is done now and we get to work.
P: I must ask as the beginning has been so difficult, will the government stay intact?
Orpo: Yes it will. I think its good once we get through these discussions and get to appraise the ministers -
P: So a good airing out in process?
Orpo: Yes, after that i believe the table is cleared and we get to work. And as the GP is good, it’s according to what the finnish people voted for in the elections. Government parties won the elections and we want to get to work.
P: Yes yes you have said that many times here, but yesterday president Niinistö took a stance in the matter and said government should commit to zero tolerance for racism. Do you and if so, what does it mean to you?
Orpo: In the statement we published we used the same term as president. And what it means in action is that not one of the ministers or the government not in legislative work or acting as a minister can spread, get blamed for racism or discrimination of any kind. That is clear.
P: Not of any kind?
Orpo: Racism is not, you cant play with it, you cant joke about it or just be a little racist. This is clear as day to me.
P: Zero tolerance, if from any minister theres racist texts or other revealings, how will you act?
Orpo: Every party and minister in government has committed to not being accused of or doing it. On the contrary we strive to weed it out.
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P: but what if there’s more racist texts comes to light?
Orpo: it’ll be intervened.
P: How?
Orpo: I was talking about a different thing now, we have this going through the histories and this has come as example for a public apology and changing one minister. Then there’s another thing thats on my responsibility and on every minister too. How we act in this respected position in the government. In that the guidelines are clear, yesterday we went through them again.
P: But will there be an airing out conversation within the government and if, when?
Orpo: I think we have discussed within the government the whole time and but as clear is that the government is only three weeks old. So ofc we need a-lot of sittings, building theme spirit and going through the guidelines, getting to know them and acting by them.
(sounds more like a summer camp for troubled teens than a government.)
P: Is the government in a crisis right now?
Orpo: It is not. Last time we went through everything was yesterday with party leaders. We have clear steppingstones how to go forward, clear framework, clear principles. we have strengthened them to one and another and i see how every minister acts right now for the best of this country. And i want to insure finnish people that we will do what ever it takes to ensure success in the government works -
P: The government you lead has had headlines in many big media houses around the world. Purras “turkish monkey” has been in the papers in Turkey and foreign affairs minister Elina Valtonen conveyed the government’s apology to them. How stunning (bad) have these headlines been to Finland? this is another public question.
Orpo: They’re not good that is very clear. Finnish image in the world is very strong, very strong. All ministers need to convey that trustworthy Finland is not changing.
P: There’s cracks in many places now. How do you fix that?
Orpo: By working.
P: How in action? What does it mean.
Orpo: By practical work and actions but also by conveying this message strongly what i’ve been saying too. Finland hasn’t changed, government guidelines are in line with free western democratic principles. That is taken care of and conveyed. In concrete actions when government gets to work and people will see this. GP is good and theres none of those things feared now.
P: Well, Putin has stated that the attack in Ukraine was because of nazis in Ukraine. How well did this nazi conversation play into their hand?
Orpo: First of all nazism and its history is upsetting. Everything around nazism needs to be judged and it has no place in this country or world. As we have done, we must completely resign from it. This word made Junnila resign cause he understood the effects it had on Finland and its government.
P: But do you see a risk in that Kreml takes an advantage of this?
Orpo: They will take advantage of every weak spot in surrounding countries. They find the ways to harm us, we must be united and strong. (more of the same said in countless different ways bla bla)
P: Last question, has the balancing of economy driven past respecting human rights (orpo speaking over) and western values?
Orpo: Certainly not, certainly not. These two things aren’t in a conflict and dont shut each other out. We stick to our values and they’re in the same GP as our economic objectives, getting people jobs, taking care of elderly, getting people in for treatment when they need it, that effort is put into schools. Thats all in the same GP.
P: Thank you for coming.
Whole lot of manure. ught. yeah no im not watching any more of his interviews.
if you have read this whole thread you know that Orpo spoke pure bullshit the whole time.
what a fucking disgrace.
Willow 🏳️⚧️🏴🇵🇸
