Samir BoulemaJul 11, 2023

Ricciardo to replace De Vries at AlphaTauri from the Hungarian Grand Prix

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Ricciardo to replace De Vries at AlphaTauri from the Hungarian Grand Prix - programming.dev

Daniel Ricciardo will make a sensational return to front-line Formula 1 racing at the upcoming Hungarian Grand Prix, with the Australian set to replace Nyck de Vries at the AlphaTauri team for the rest of the season.

Show threadNusPojava
Weren’t people crying that Mick got replaced by Hulk after 2 years of not performing, but suddenly it’s okay if a younger driver is replaced after 10 races by an underperforming veteran?
Jul 12, 2023 at 9:34amWeb
Show threadrunning_squirrelJul 12, 2023
Because it’s two completely different situations. Yes, Mick has the symoathy bonus because of his name BUT: One was a young driver cutted in the age of 23 after coming directly from F2 after winning it in the second season and showing that he’s evolving. The other one is 28, won F2 in his third year (being older than Mick when he was cutted by Haas) and didn’t really shine in Formula E while getting lucky to win it 2021 with a randomized qualifying format and a shit show farce in Valencia.
Show threadNusPojavaJul 12, 2023
I perfectly understand what you’re saying, but one had 40 races to adjust and one only 10, and to have so much difference is reactionist at least. I just don’t get the hype behind Ricciardo in 2023.
Show threadrunning_squirrelJul 13, 2023
At least we agree on that. I don’t get the hype about Riccardo either.
Show threadSupersonic StorkJul 12, 2023

I think the contexts are different. De Vries is 28, with three FE world championships, Mick was a proper rookie. After De Vries’ race with Williams, expectations were also a lot higher.

I don’t think firing De Vries this early is fair though, at least 1 full season should be the norm for more experienced rookies. 2 years for recent F2 grads makes sense.

RB and by extension AT also seem to have inconsistent tolerance for driver performance, which makes me think something else is going on behind the scenes.

Show threadwheresbickiJul 13, 2023

This is typical of Red Bull. No one should be surprised by this. Hell Kyvatt was ahead of Ricciardo in championship points when they demoted him to Toro Rosso, and then he got replaced again in the middle of the season for Max.

Albon had a short stint at Red Bull, they did Pierre Gasly dirty too.

These are all examples of drivers who showed strong races and have gotten podiums.

Nyck never raced well this year.

Show threadNusPojavaJul 13, 2023
To be honest, apart from Kvyat, I don’t feel bad for Gasly or Albon. Albon had 30ish races and was woeful and Gasly argued with Newey of all people. Red Bull got to do what they got to do, however, why Ricciardo and not a RB junior?
Show threadwheresbickiJul 19, 2023
Albon and Gasly have demonstrated they are good drivers. My point was even good drivers get the boot at cutthroat Redbull.