I wanted to get a Fairphone 4 until I saw I saw it didn’t have a headphone jack. Made me think all their “sustainable” mottos are just marketing.

Purism with their Librem phones took people’s money and didn’t send them the product so I didn’t want to chance it or support a company that does that.

So in the end I got a Pixel 7 instead and put Graphene OS on it. Not particularly happy but didn’t seem like there was a better choice.

Recently found out from a Louis Rossman video that the lead dev of Graphene has some mental health issues that don’t make him a very trustworthy individual. Supposedly he stepped down but he’s probably still contributing code.

Tl;dr: phones = bad

Yup, I’m in the market for a new phone soon, and here’s my assessment of my options, in rough order of preference:

• PinePhone Pro - probably not ready since I’m not confident in calls waking it from sleep; not sure if it’ll support the apps I need (mostly need a specific 2FA app for work)
• Fairphone - expensive and no headphone jack
• Pixel + alternate ROM - not sure I trust the devs
• iPhone - don’t like the ecosystem much, and I don’t really trust Apple
• regular Android - software support ends too soon
• feature phones - don’t have the apps I need

I’m probably going to get an older Pixel and a PinePhone Pro, and I’ll hack on the PinePhone until it does what I need. I don’t think I can add reliable suspend/resume, but I can probably build a couple small apps I need (i.e. a lemmy client, I’m already working on one), get a few Android apps working, and tune the OS a bit. Worst case scenario, it’s a fun hobby project.

pinephone pro - is defintely getting better as the software improves. The battery life is definitely something that holds it back i bought a keyboard battery case and it improved it however the edges of the case that connects to the phone have cracked over time and ive super glued it twice (near headphone port & opposite side near type c port.) When they crack it can cause a misalignment on the pins and not charge/keyboard doesnt function so i have to press back into the case(hence the glue to fix that). It will eventually get better for me to completely jump over.

Pixel phones degoogled - works great especially calyx or graphene os. I have always bought used but if i want change to happen i need to stop funding google indirectly through the used market with buying their phones. I am speaking for myself here.

Fairphone , Teracube, Murena - i eventually want to just buy from these moving forward. They hit 80% + of the checkboxes i need and improvements come quicker when this companys market improves especially when their direction aligns with what i want in a phone.

Tl;dr - i am letting my money do the talking on where i want phone improvement to occur.

I think my problem is that I don’t know where I want to see improvement. I see two options:

• Linux phone - it’ll become a hobby and I’ll constantly need to tinker
• Graphene, Fairphone, etc - better than what I have, but I’ll probably never get to my ideal

If the PinePhone had better software, I’d totally just go with that, but it’ll be rough the first couple of years.

Regarding best phone for post market os

wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices

Pinephone (not pro) seems to have the most support its on the main line.

Other than that under “community” & “phone” you would decide which phone in that list meets what you need and get peoples opinion on those specific phone with usage.

• your selection on which direction to take via pinephone or android based on your needs and tollerances.

If you dont mind tinkering go pinephone however if you need it to work for various uses based on what you/friends/family use and compromises need to be done then go android.

Contribution can be bug reports, donations, assistance to other users ect. Anything is possible if you want.

I do where i can and its my choice; same with you, your choices are your own.

I think I’ll want the PinePhone Pro because repairability is important and it’ll probably be hard to find parts for outdated mass market phones. The original PinePhone is just too slow for me (from videos, not hands-on usage), and the PinePhone Pro probably wouldn’t be a huge downgrade from my current phone in terms of performance.