@beforewisdom As others are pointing out, federation (not being centralized) is a must. Also, Kbin definitely needs more polish, but it already looks better than Squabbles.

I did register on Squabbles, but quickly decided it's not for me. I'll be sticking with Kbin and Mastodon, thank you very much.

#kbin #mastodon #fediverse

@manvanaarde

Federation is not a must. 🙂

Notice the smiley face signaling non-hostility.

I've used the Internet since the 90s without it.

Most communication on the Internet, especially in the age of microblogging, is disposable communication. Low value communication that most authors place no value on. Shooting the shit about the latest news item.

People whose writing matters to them make a blog, go to a blogging site, or put their writing in a more permanent medium.

Being able to transfer all of one's account from a failing/corrupted social media platform is perhaps the most important thing about federation. Yet it is an unimplemented myth even on Mastodon.

I think it is more important to have fully functional competing social media sites so people have someplace to go when the next Musk or Huffman goes full on asshole.

Many do NOT like the idea that what they write in one place can end up on a site or in an app they never heard of.

Squabbles.io is a great Reddit alternative for people like that.

@beforewisdom > Federation is not a must.

Maybe not for you. But it is for me and many others, who consciously chose the Fediverse as a more robust form of social media.

> I've used the Internet since the 90s without it.

So you've never used email or usenet?

> Shooting the shit about the latest news item.

Ah, I see. Squabbles is for shitposting. Yeah, that's not for me.

I *want* something a bit more permanent, as I engage in activism. (Not all the time, but still...)

@manvanaarde

There are always more lurkers than posters and we are conversing on a platform famous for federation. Point being I don't think you can assume your opinion is the majority opinion.

Email and Usenet are not the same as the Fediverse. The term and the concept didn't exist until recently. More importantly, when a person sends an email it only goes to the recipients they consciously chose. Similar for Usent, their post only goes to the group they chose. In the Fediverse the user does not have that choice. A post made on Mastodon can go to KBin, Lemmy, or a platform they never heard of.

"Shooting the shit" in common usage means casual, trivial conversation. The term "shit posting" usually implies trolling, writing things in such a way as to illicit a negative response from someone.

Current social media platforms have been around for a long time. It remains to be seen if Kbin, Lemmy, Mastodon or the others will make it. Nobody can predict the future.

I was an activist too for many years. We didn't need federated social media. We did use the Internet, but we also got out in the streets and talked to people face to face.

If the fediverse disappears a few years from now ( Meta may win ), activists will still be able to work for positive change effectively.