TIL lemmy.ml is a pro-authoritarian CCP shill instance

https://lemmynsfw.com/post/262488

TIL lemmy.ml is a pro-authoritarian CCP shill instance - Lemmy NSFW

For all the newcomers that aren’t aware, I just stumbled upon this insane drama. Apparently lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml] is the result of a reddit sub ban of a bunch of pro-china bots who vigorously defend the Chinese government, and the two top admins are also the top devs of the Lemmy source software. Pretty terrible stuff! The linked thread is full of their insane ramblings and denialism.

Good thing that what they are building is super transparent, open source and distributed. That critical post wasn’t even deleted.

As long as that remains the case, I’m happy that Lemmy is a place where you can find all kinds of views represented.

Oh yeah, I’m really happy that alt-right/ *ist/neonazi/etc views are represented.

So glad for diversity of bigotry!

Suppressing different views on a platform doesn’t make them go away, it only radicalises them. The only real, long term solution is debate and persuasion.

Suppressing different views on a platform doesn’t make them go away

We’re not talking about ‘different views’, we’re talking about violent, bigoted, misogynistic, racist views that advocate for the removal/killing of people based on what they were born as. There’s no ‘middle ground’ or ‘debate’ to be had with someone who holds those views.

They can be de-radicalised sure, but not by a bunch of strangers on the internet.

The totality of stragers on the internet makes up society. I bet many people spend more time socialising on the internet than outside.

Sure but they clearly aren’t swayed by logic, facts, etc. Because everytime they’re proven wrong, they run to twitter/Reddit where people who tell them what they want to hear are platformed.

Pre-this they had websites like Stormfront or whatever, but that was it. Small websites with small user bases. Now they have access to millions of people, and their lies are awfully nice sounding if you’re a (usually) young, white, male who is struggling. It’s not capitalism’s fault, it’s that damn immigrant down the block. It’s not their shit attitude that drives women away, it’s “feminism”. Then they grift and weaponize these kids, and they self-reinforce through the massive platform they’re on.

All of the ‘debate’ and talking hasn’t stopped Peterson from convincing tens of thousands, if not more, people that women should be given to them by the government. I’m not sure this internet debate is actually causing people to realize when they’re wrong so much as give them a bunch of “that’s ok, it’s those damn libruls!” back pats when they get eviscerated in yet another post online.