Mastodawn

Imgur links suck

Most Fediverse software supports image uploads, so there's no reason to use Imgur for image hosting. Hell, even on my small single-user server (atomicpoet.org), image hosting is easy peasy. Not only is Imgur not needing, they're an annoyance for those of us who are used to seeing images natively on the Fediverse.... #imgur #fediverse

https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/177544

Imgur links suck - Fediverse - kbin.social

Most Fediverse software supports image uploads, so there's no reason to use Imgur for image hosting. Hell, even on my small single-user server (atomicpoet.org), image hosting is easy peasy. Not only is Imgur not needing, they're an annoyance for those of us who are used to seeing images natively on the Fediverse....

InEnduringGrowStrong Jul 11, 2023

Plenty of larger instances limit the upload size because it can snowball into huge hosting costs rather quickly.

atomicpoet Jul 11, 2023

I've had the chance to join several big servers and even manage my own (calckey.social). Usually, they set an upload size limit of around 10-15MB, which is more than sufficient for most photos.

However, I must say that I'm not a big fan of Imgur. It's not the best experience for visitors and feels like a prime example of something being unnecessarily unpleasant. I believe people mainly use Imgur out of habit, and the drawbacks haven't been significant enough to overcome that familiarity just yet.

Roy #EatTheRich Pardee 🇺🇸Jul 11, 2023

@atomicpoet Are there implications for who gets to pay for the disk space it takes to store image files?

atomicpoet Jul 11, 2023

As someone who manages multiple Fediverse servers, I wanted to share a friendly perspective on image uploads. If the option to upload images is available on a server, it's likely because the administrator wants you to utilize that feature. Otherwise, they would simply disable it to avoid incurring additional costs for hosting image files. So go ahead and feel free to make use of image uploads when they're available!

IntlLawGnome Jul 11, 2023

I will add that many of us who work remotely using publicly accessible wifi also use VPNs, and Imgur actively blocks IPs from multiple commercial VPN providers. If you want those users to see the image you're sharing, Imgur is not the way to go.

Pixelfed works well with other Fediverse services like Kbin and Lemmy. Try hosting there!

fearout Jul 11, 2023

When posting one image, sure.
But (at least on kbin currently) there no way to upload a gallery or several pictures to put into the body of a thread.

Helldiver_M Jul 11, 2023

It's been brought to my attention on a previous thread that if you're attaching images to comments on Kbin, Lemmy users cannot see them.

I still very much dislike imgur though, so I wouldn't suggest that as a solution. But embedding images into hyperlinks seems to be the best way to ensure your comment containing an image is viewed correctly by the wider fediverse.

ferociousfloof Jul 11, 2023

Yep it is super annoying atm. Getting to where Reddit + RES was for any Fediverse frontend would be my ideal, but I know that is likely a bit away yet.

However currently Imgur links require me do multiple click/page loads to see anything with Kbin and right now that sucks because there are a fair amount of posts that link to them. And saying, well people should just use X/Y/Z to host it instead is a bad solution. The solution should always be to make X/Y/Z a better/easier hosting option while still supporting other hosts.

CannedTuna Jul 11, 2023

I use Imgur because Memmy has uploading photos direct to Imgur built in, like Apollo did. If the devs swapped to using PixelFed, I’d be using that. It’s just a matter of convenience.

If I was uploading and sharing photos to my own account, yeah I’d use PixelFed. I don’t have an Imgur account.

So yeah, I agree. It would be good to get away from that service.

ThatGirlKylie Jul 11, 2023

This entirely. Just posted the same thing basically bc I’m also using memmy and it’s like I don’t have a choice. What do you suggest then instead of complaining about it.

Not all of us the web browser/desktop to browse lemmy.

thessnake03 Jul 11, 2023

Not all of us the web browser/desktop to browse lemmy.

It’s almost like I needed a replacement for an app that was recently stolen from me.

dismalnow Jul 11, 2023

Use kbin to browse the whole fediverse.

It has image hosting.

https://kbin.social/media/cache/resolve/post_thumb/60/f1/60f1d48d2af27f138aa7e01ddb1c11290847f1f636b77dbe981e3c191556ddf2.gif

JJROKCZ Jul 11, 2023

But is there an app? If not then this suggestion is kinda moot since this thread is about apps like Memmy defaulting to Imgur upload

dismalnow Jul 12, 2023

The PWA works great when loaded into Firefox.

iliketrains Jul 11, 2023

imgur has more recently blocked access from numerous VPS, VPN and Tor.

vimb Jul 11, 2023

Wait, why? What's the incentive?

Saganastic Jul 11, 2023

Collect more user data and sell it for $$$ probably.

dismalnow Jul 11, 2023

That and to prevent megaleeching by scraping.

ThatGirlKylie Jul 11, 2023

What do you suggest when uploading a photo when commenting through an app? Most apps I have tried in the past including the one I’m on right now just upload to Imgur and paste a link in for you.

What is your suggestion for mobile users then?

g8phcon2 Jul 11, 2023

use a web browser....even on your phone....

ThatGirlKylie Jul 11, 2023

No? That defeats the whole purpose of not wanting to use the browser app(s) on my phone.

That’s like saying “just browse Reddit on your safari browser on your phone forehead and you won’t have to worry about Apollo shutting down or any other 3rd party app”

Such short-sightedness.

g8phcon2 Jul 11, 2023

Thers's plenty of other good reasons not to use non-free closed source "SaaS" like reddit.

g8phcon2 Jul 11, 2023

then again, if your phone has "safari browser" you probably are unable to be reasoned with anyway.

dismalnow Jul 11, 2023

🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆Jul 12, 2023

Liftoff uses the actual server you’re posting from.

Like so.

elscallr Jul 11, 2023

Image hosting is always easy, it's never cheap. That's the difference between an instance with tens of thousands of users and your server with 1.

Lyre Calliope Jul 11, 2023

@atomicpoet any recommendations for audio and video?

amio Jul 11, 2023

I'm usually on kbin, and here, imgur links are broken. Embeds and thumbnails, neither works for any imgur link.

🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆Jul 12, 2023

I always use apps to browse things, and imgur links work exactly the same as native hosted embedded images, with the bonus of also working with animated gifs and mp4s. What actually is the suck about imgur?

Pandantic Jul 12, 2023

I use kbin web app and they don’t show up for me.

VerifiablyMrWonka Jul 12, 2023

Imgur doesn't work with vpns. To view your meme post I have to got through steps to disable either my work or private VPNs. At this point the end result is I just don't bother.

DarkThoughts Jul 12, 2023

Kbin doesn't support pasting images from the clipboard, so it's kind of a useless feature for me most of the time.