TIL lemmy.ml is a pro-authoritarian CCP shill instance
https://lemmynsfw.com/post/262488
TIL lemmy.ml is a pro-authoritarian CCP shill instance - Lemmy NSFW
For all the newcomers that aren’t aware, I just stumbled upon this insane drama.
Apparently lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml] is the result of a reddit sub ban of a
bunch of pro-china bots who vigorously defend the Chinese government, and the
two top admins are also the top devs of the Lemmy source software. Pretty
terrible stuff! The linked thread is full of their insane ramblings and
denialism.
Good thing that what they are building is super transparent, open source and distributed. That critical post wasn’t even deleted.
As long as that remains the case, I’m happy that Lemmy is a place where you can find all kinds of views represented.
Oh yeah, I’m really happy that alt-right/ *ist/neonazi/etc views are represented.
So glad for diversity of bigotry!
Suppressing different views on a platform doesn’t make them go away, it only radicalises them. The only real, long term solution is debate and persuasion.
Second,the argument ignores the fact that debate and persuasion are not always effective or possible when dealing with fascists. Fascists are not interested in rational dialogue or evidence, but in emotional manipulation and intimidation. They use lies, distortions, and appeals to fear and hatred to sway their audience. They also resort to violence and terrorism when they feel threatened or challenged. Trying to debate fascists only gives them more opportunities to spread their lies and hatred, and to silence or attack their critics.
Third, the argument overlooks the harm that allowing fascist views on a platform can cause to the people who are targeted by them. Fascists often scapegoat and demonize minorities, immigrants, LGBTQ+ people, women, Jews, Muslims, and other groups that they consider inferior or enemies. By giving fascists a platform, we are exposing these vulnerable groups to hate speech, harassment, discrimination, and even physical violence. We are also normalizing and legitimizing fascism as a valid political option, which can erode our democratic values and institutions.
Targeted harassment and physical harm should, of course, be prohibited, nobody is arguing againt that. Having randos post their intolerant views on social media doesn’t legitimize it in any way. It instead gives others a chance to talk them out of it.