Give it to me straight. How worried are you for Fedora's future after Red Hats recent anti user decisions?

https://lemmy.ml/post/1862439

Give it to me straight. How worried are you for Fedora's future after Red Hats recent anti user decisions? - Lemmy

Not remotely.

Maybe certain people should think twice about setting up an entire business model of support based on having the current company do all the engineering work, cloning it, and then taking the support contracts for it.

Both Fedora and CentOS Stream are still very much upstream. Just certain CentOS alternatives are throwing a hissy-fit/tantrum that their nice neat little “cloned distro + support” business model fell apart overnight because they built their entire business off of what’s basically (not entirely) a loophole.

The Red Hat controversy has popped up a lot lately but this is the first time I’ve seen this perspective. It’s the the actual reason behind the change? Was there a distro particularly guilty of doing this?

Oracle for ages, and Red Hat had made changes in the last to make it more difficult for Oracle (something about the kernel patches).

Rocky more recently, CIQ had been selling support contracts, including a well publicized contract at NASA very recently for a few workstations.

If it was just AlmaLinux making a free clone I’m not sure if they would have made the change or not. Obviously they got rid of the original CentOS so it might have still been on their minds. Also, they were doing a lot of packaging and debranding work to enable this that was no benefit to Red Hat, so it may have been a matter of deciding the cost and resources was more than they could justify, especially when it is essentially putting the code in yet another, third place (Stream, customer SRPMs, the git site).

There’s no way this change stops Oracle, though. Oracle will continue doing whatever they want and the consumers can abandon hope, all ye who enter into contracts with Oracle. (The fact that this is all Rocky and Alma and nobody was talking about going to Oracle after Red Hat killed CentOS should be a sign.)

Anyway point is, Red Hat can cry about Rocky and Alma all they like but if those two had the same institutional backing as Oracle they’d shut up quick. They just think they can get away with preventing small fries from exercising their rights under the GPL.