Dan GillmorChatGPT is now refusing to provide links to articles it says I wrote. This makes sense since I didn't write four of the five it cited, and the fifth is a book title, not an article.
Nicole Esq⚖️It is simply astonishing that companies are embedding technology into search engines that makes them vastly, vastly worse at finding accurate information.
Steve Torrente@dangillmor I think it makes sense. There's not enough money in directing folks to accurate information. The real game is exercising point-control of all information; of deciding what information even is.
Kofi Loves Efia 
@theLastTheorist @dangillmor the reason is even dumber than that. It's just popular "you were so afraid that someone else would do it before you that you never stopped to ask 'will this help anyone anywhere ever including us'" it's nerds chasing popularity there's no master plan
dibi58may be a politically correct excuse to hide away information they dont like people to see, try to find avro manhattan, "the vatican holocaust" or smedley butler, "war is a racket" ....
is also hard to find the pictures of the church holocaust in croatia ....
Imbolc@dibi58 @dangillmor Here are what those searches return.
I don't see that anything is hidden away.
the links of the book of butler (free) come up if you look at ratical.org
avro manhattan books (free) come up if you look at reformation.org
they are normally, unless you make a very strict exact query 6 or more pages behind now
ahead are people trying to sell them ...
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the photoes more gruesome of the vatican holocaust dont seem to come up anymore, shallow mass graves, a jar of the bishop with the eyeballs of the victims, people bodies mutilated in pieces ...
but try with safe search off, try stephanovic+bishop+genocide+pictures or ante+pavelic+church+genocide ...
anyhow most of people dont look at the sixth page and or dont buy them from amazon ...
so they reached their purpose, hide away kkkristian kkkrimes ...
if you want to read those books would be interesting to find out what chatgpt comes out about kkkristianity genocides and on specific the vatican genocide in croatia ...
where the pope should have been hanged in nurberg, but did not happen ...
John Breen@dangillmor So the way I think of it, the "search engine" started out as a way to index and search the "internet" for content of interest. Allow people to search and find it.
The exit point was a link to content on somebody else's server.
Now, the platforms don't like that model, because they are sending traffic to somebody else.
Generating content that does not link to a "3rd party" service/platform is the idea behind LLMs and ChatGPT and the latest AI BS.
This must be a popular concept among big-brain VC types.
The exit point was a link to content on somebody else's server.
Now, the platforms don't like that model, because they are sending traffic to somebody else.
Generating content that does not link to a "3rd party" service/platform is the idea behind LLMs and ChatGPT and the latest AI BS.
This must be a popular concept among big-brain VC types.
Jonathan Mull
Jake in the desert@dangillmor astonishing because we want better but not totally unexpected though, these companies want to squeeze every dollar out of everywhere at whatever expense. They don't care about a technology's potential ramifications and misuse, they just want as much cash as possible as fast as possible with this tech gold rush crap.
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Jordan@dangillmor I highly, highly recommend Shoshana Zuboff's book "The Age of Surveillance Capitalism." Search engines don't make money by directing you to the results you want. They make money by selling predictions they've made about your future behavior (by feeding the vast behavioral surplus data they accumulate into their proprietary algorithms) to 3rd parties. We need to change the way we think about the services we use, including search engines.
Silversalty@dangillmor
Another example of Cory Doctorow's enshittification of formerly valuable web sites.
PhoenixSerenity@dangillmor It's not astounding if you're very aware of colonialism & capitalism. The former makes the latter - possible. It's why I'm HUGE on decolonizing our own minds - first & foremost.
Paul Houle@dangillmor Google has been heading downwards a long time as documented in this blog
they don’t want to share a cent of surplus with the rest of the web if they can possibly avoid it
barryzee@dangillmor My problem is that now in addition to having to evaluate the results of a search, I have to figure out if the search engine is just making crap up. <SIGH> I guess that soon, we will be driven to subscribe to search engines without AI if any such will exist. Maybe the VPN companies...Proton search?
Toon Van de Putte 🍉@dangillmor 'move fast and break things' 🤷♂️
eshep@dangillmor Always the concern for pushin what's popular and not bothering investigate its viability beforehand.
JW prince of CPH@dangillmor I'm sure the search engine was created in good faith - but as soon as it became a business, the purpose also changed from "letting the user find what they're looking for" to "direct the user to whatever we make the most money on, including but not limited to leading them directly away from what they came for"...
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈@dangillmor Starting to think this 'Capitalism' idea has run it's course.
Nick B. 🇬🇧 🌳
Mike Spooner@dangillmor Or, indeed, any information on the subject at all.