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Steve Gisselbrecht@cstross
In PERHAPS EXCESSIVE fairness, it is my understanding that some beer is not vegan because isinglass is used to clarify it.
mokrates@stevegis_ssg @cstross Yeah, the fairness is a little bit excessive ;)
Have you heard about those expensive coffee beans, that are prepared by being digsted by cats?
The coffee you make from them is not "cat based".
johnaldis@mokrates @stevegis_ssg @cstross “Plant-based” is a stupid term for a sensible distinction—“oil-based paint” doesn’t have to be only made from oil, but the (most-accepted) meaning of “plant-based” can’t have any deliberate animal at all. “Vegan” requires more thorough checking than just “didn’t put it in on purpose.” Some sort of marking for this category seems sensible but the specific term is badly chosen IMO. “Animal-free” would make more sense.
@mokrates @stevegis_ssg @cstross I guess what I’m trying to say is of course beer is “plant-based” the same way a paint is “water-based” or “oil-based” (although perhaps the beer is more accurately “water-based” or “alcohol-based”) but not all beer is animal-free (I understand that plant/synthetic finings are available but IIRC Guinness, for example, was still using fish finings until a couple of years ago).