Jure RepincJul 9, 2023

Facebook turns over mother and daughter’s chat history to police resulting in abortion charges

https://lemmy.ml/post/1874733

Facebook turns over mother and daughter’s chat history to police resulting in abortion charges - Lemmy

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605 [https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605] > A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

Show threadFartsWithAnAccentJul 9, 2023
Yeah, that sounds pretty on-brand for Meta
Show threadkevincoxJul 9, 2023
They are just complying with the law here. As much as I don’t think Meta are great people I’d rather that they follow the law than make their own decisions. Of course we should also consider fixing these laws, but that isn’t really Meta’s responsibility.
Show threadAurixJul 9, 2023
Law enforcement will knock on the doors of Fediverse servers and there will need to be some monetary fund for legal fees.
Show threadkevincoxJul 9, 2023

If law enforcement knocks on my door with a valid warrant I’m going to comply. It would be nice to have some legal assistance to help validate the warrant but at the end of the day in this case it was almost certainly valid.

If this was about a murder rather than abortion people would be applauding Meta for helping catch the murderer. I think what people are actually mad about is the law, and they are using Meta as a scapegoat.

But at the end of the day E2EE is the best solution here. Don’t give private data to others, they can’t be trusted because they can be compelled by the law.

Show threadChippyrJul 9, 2023
She was 7 months pregnant. It was a murder.
Show threadwizardbeard
Single sentence “hot takes” like this help no one. They only serve as dopamine hits for people who agree with your statement already.
Jul 9, 2023 at 5:45pmWeb
Show threadChippyrJul 9, 2023
What else is there to add? The baby has been baking for 7 months. If you are okay with aborting babies 7 months into pregnancy there is something seriously fucked up with your head.
Show threadwizardbeardJul 10, 2023

Chill, I’m not, but that’s not really relevant here.

People who think it’s a fetus and not a baby aren’t going to be convinced by you just being upset. If you look at most comments, 7 months vs 1 week is meaningless to anyone who hasn’t had a kid.

Spell it out more if you want any chance whatsoever of getting through to anyone who doesn’t already agree with you:

Fetuses are viable outside the womb at 24 weeks, roughly 5.5 months. This person could have had an abortion legally and safely at any point during the first 20 weeks of pregnancy, but instead waited 8 weeks further and did it ad-hoc and unsafely.

Show threadParsnipWitchJul 10, 2023
Do you think people should be forced to donate organs?