T. Ryan GregoryJul 9, 2023

So, I really like the atmosphere here so far, and the folks running zeroes.ca have been great, and 5000 characters is sa-weet. But I need to be clear that I am not, and have never been, a hardcore zero COVID person. I wish we had stamped it out in 2021, but we didn't, and we won't now. I have described myself as a Less-COVID-than-this zealot. At this stage, my focus is on balancing evidence (such as we still get) and risk vs. being able to keep being cautious as the rest of the world has moved on. That means extending grace to people who are doing their best and making decisions based on their own circumstances, even if they're doing less than what the strictest measures would entail. I need to be clear about that after what happened on Twitter.

That's all to say that if zeroes.ca is or turns into a hardcore zero COVID zone I am not likely to fit in. I do have an account again on mstdn.science, but haven't switched over.

Show threadPlantingTrees😷🇨🇦🌻👠Jul 9, 2023

@TRyanGregory

Is wanting an effective, neutralising vaccine too much to ask for?

How do the immuno-compromised, the elderly, the disable fit in?

#COVID

Show threadT. Ryan GregoryJul 9, 2023

@JaneDoeTheFirst Yeah, so here we go. I've been through all of this on Twitter already and what my goal is in terms of keeping as many people as possible doing the best they can for as long as possible.

But for the record, I very much want that kind of vaccine (though most people probably won't take it at this point), and I also want clean indoor air to make spaces more inclusive. What isn't going to happen is 100% of people masking 100% of the time in perpetuity.

Show threadIdealistic Pragmatist 
@TRyanGregory I know it’s hard not to assume people are going to react like they did on Twitter, but I honestly don’t see that in this thread? I see some people disagreeing, and others asking questions. Nobody’s going below the belt or trolling (so far?). I don’t see anything that merited a “Yeah, so here we go” reaction.
Jul 9, 2023 at 3:43pmWeb
Show threadT. Ryan GregoryJul 9, 2023
@IPEdmonton And here we continue. Sigh. Not a moments fucking peace anywhere.
Show threadIdealistic Pragmatist Jul 9, 2023
@TRyanGregory my point was this: I honestly think that if you step back and see what people are actually saying rather than reacting based on the abuse you took on Twitter, you’ll see that there’s no lack of peace in this thread!
Show threadIdealistic Pragmatist Jul 9, 2023
@TRyanGregory if you put your stances out on social media, some people will express support, and some people will ask questions, and some people will push back. I mostly see people doing the latter gently here (including in this discussion). If you don’t want people to push back at all, though…I guess you probably have to request that explicitly.
Show threadIdealistic Pragmatist Jul 9, 2023
@TRyanGregory (or wait to talk about a thing until you’re emotionally ready to potentially engage with people who might have different stances.)