L4sBotFar-right figures, including Nazi supporters, anti-gay extremists, and white supremacists, are flocking to Threads
HeartyBeastA lot of people are flocking to Threads, so why wouldn’t these groups?
nuzzleratI was hoping they would just enjoy Elon’s twitter but apparently they really need to pollute the common spaces otherwise they get bored
Bilb!They’ll go anywhere they can get attention I suppose
Yup, Nazis don’t want a circle jerk chamber. They specifically want to get into general public spaces so they can recruit. This is why you often find Nazi shit in the weirdest places (such as the brownies).
It’s why moderation is needed on all social media platforms. It’s also why “we don’t tolerate Nazis” needs to be a general rule. They are a cancer.
Bernie EcclestonedThat Mythic Quest episode with the Nazis
RiikkaTheIcePrincessThis reminds me that I'm never gonna understand furfash. Like, here we are in a furpile or watching cartoons or just like, wiggling or some crap and some bellend's gotta be all, "Hitler is cool actually" and that's part of their whole 'sona while the whole rest of us are doing a thing that kinda naturally implies a lack of restrictions (on personal physical form, especially!) and having a nice time. What part of any of this fits well with "you have to exist my way" O.o rantrantrant!
That and they want to make public platforms miserable for the people they hate.
They left twitter and moved to truth social, only to realize there’s no one to troll in a private echo chamber.
So they came back to twitter just as everyone else started leaving due to musk’s bullshit.
Now with threads positioning itself as a viable alternative to twitter, it was inevitable that they would make their way there too.
These people have made conflict such a fundamental aspect of their personalities that when they don’t have it they go looking for places to create it.
ChozoExactly. It'll happen with any platform that gains traction. I'm even seeing some fringe groups appearing in some niche Lemmy instances, too. People are going to go to wherever other people are.
AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦They are not “flocking to Threads”, they were already in Instagram and Facebook. Meta is going to have to pay one day or another for cowering in front of religious countries by allowing homophobia and anti-atheist and anti-freethinker hate-speech in those countries.
I know exactly what you mean
Well, to be fair, I have managed to get some lunatics removed from some local UK communities on Facebook. Granted, these are UK communities, but still, there were a lot of lunatics at some point during pandemic. All the crap suddenly started posting all kinds of non sense from blatant racism to conspiracy theories.
Try learning some Arabic or Hebrew, moderators for content in that language are mostly sourced from the MENA region where the notion of hate-speech is quite distorted and homophobia and hate-speech directed towards nonbelievers are considered normal. Reporting hate-speech in those languages almost never leads to removals.
CurlyMoustacheThis is the answer: they were already there to begin with
That’s been my experience as well. Reporting them does nothing, but if you call them out on their BS, Facebook suspends you.
As long as hate drives engagement, this will never change.
They’re gonna need a lot of mods
ohmyiv” He went on to instruct his followers to “try and build a big account. I mean, if you get in early, maybe some of you guys can blow up and red pill some people on there.”
Red pill? Did pro-authoritarian, white supremacist, and self-proclaimed incel, Nick Fuentes unironically use “red pill”? lmao What a clown.
I don’t understand why these incels insist on using a Matrix analogy, red-pill just means “truth” and blue-pill means “ignorance”, why do they constantly subvert a basic concept? It’s literally the same with “woke”, it literally just means what it says, “being attuned to what’s going on”. Nothing more, but these idiots literally ruin it, if anything they’re blue-pilled, going by the Matrix
Nonameuser678The Matrix is also queer af and full of anti-fascist themes. So these incel guys are really barking up the wrong tree in so many ways
They quote the Bible without understanding it either, not surprising they’d do it with a movie.
Red pill/blue pill was written as an analogy to the experience of trans people, as well. The ignorance with how they’ve co-opted the concept runs quite deep.
CookieJarObserverNot saying its a good thing they exist, but its a good thing its happening to Meta and not a good instance here.
Likely 4chan has something to do with it lol
Why? They’re more than welcome on Twitter now.
They were told they could now freely make threads and misheard.
RoundcatMy theory is even right wingers hate right wing cesspools. Like there is no shortage of far right communities on the internet, but even if you were to be a right leaning person who has no problem with "a little free speech", you are going to be a "cucked liberal" to someone else. Maybe you are a fiscally conservative hypercapitalist but have no problem with the existence of gay and trans people. Maybe your a terf but still care a lot about abortion rights and access to healthcare. Maybe your extremely religious, but believe it is your duty to help the poor and provide charity for those in need. You are going to clash with someone in the same space as you, and there are going to be fewer protections from harassment and less places where you can feel safe in speaking than if you were on a more mainstream space with actual moderation. In the end the platform is going to be hospitable to only the most extreme of conservatives, and its going to become an echochamber of the same opinions, and the same hate and anger.
Second, most of these accounts and groups have the goal of recruitment in mind. You're not going to recruit many people in the far right echochamber because your basically preaching to the choir, so instead you go to the platformers where all the "normies" are at. There you can spread prop, pick easy fights and make your side look strong, and convince ordinary people that what you believe isn't all "that bad", or that it's the liberals/trans people/feminists/jews who are the disgusting or unhinged ones.
What you call recruitment, I call conquest.
Trollish Uber MAGAs just aren't happy with themselves until they've gotten a rise out of someone on the Internet.
I’m sure even the most hard core musk loving nazi scum can see the writing on the wall with that site by now.
I’ll never understand the drive to make other people’s lives more miserable. We’re given only so many years in this planet. Why not enjoy your life and let others enjoy theirs. These people seemingly can’t do either of those.
Tammo-KorsaiThey carry so much hate inside that it rises up and makes them ugly on the outside. Just look at all of those Neo-Nazis who would never meet the criteria for being Aryan.
I guess it’s a good coping mechanism to not face your own problems. Also you always have something to do and you feel involved.
I do think it gives them a bigger narrative to be a part of. I suspect that’s a big draw too. It’s just a really shit narrative.
Good point. I think one think modern world (maybe it was always this way) is kind of lacking providing people with meaning. Sure you are free to search and create your own, which is undoubtfully great. But some people need others people stories to make any sense of that mess we call life.
prole“good”
mrmanagerIt’s not about that… I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand the psychology here. They feel strongly that something is wrong and want to fight it. That’s it.
Again, not supporting it at all but you should at least understand that they are not so different from us. They just grew up around hate for these things and continue to feel hate for these things.
If they would have grown up in a different environment, I don’t think they would even care about any of this.
Sure there are people who were just socialised into far right ideology, but there are also ones that arrived there later in life. Humans are complex. psychology ist messy and not very well understood. But feeling deeply unhappy and projecting on an out-group, are definitely something they all have in common.
I think it’s much simpler than that. People who feel inadequate look for outside forces to blame.
I’m not defending them but have you never had a strong conviction that something is wrong and you will do what you can to fight it?
That’s how these people feel about gay people and so on. I can only assume they grew up around people who felt that way and they don’t see the error of their ways.
niktemadurImagine being such a failure as a human being that they drag others down the hole they've stubbornly dug for themselves.
The Menemen!People often do it for free, but it is also a business model.
samus12345Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate…
ONLY until the rest of the users give them the “fuck off you nazi trash” response that they actually deserve.
That's not how it works, then you get banned, not the Nazi.
Hahah, lemme know when they actually do fuck off. Sure, they deserve that response but it's not gonna get rid of them any more than it has anywhere else on the capitalist web.
As if we needed one more reason to defederate.
Meow.tar.gzAre you honestly shocked? They’re trying to get in while Threads is overwhelmed by new signups. Hopefully Meta will do the right thing and kick them off but they probably won’t.
The big corps have always had a right wing bias. The corps bend over backwards to cator to these asshats while shitting all over the left.
There’s a reason this stuff thrives on places like Facebook and will continue to do so. They also want a platform that has the widest reach.
It’s why they want to be in the big sites instead of making their own because they want the rest of us to see their nonsense. There may not end up being a big hate presence on fedi stuff because any right wing instances will be broadly blacklisted either by the instances or by the users.
Broadly and quickly! The message rapidly goes out and in a matter of hours, if not minutes, the instance is defederated.
A_Random_IdiotBusinesses love right wingers because they are more active, and engaged, than left wingers. They tend not to run adblock, and click and buy shit from adds. So the average right winger brings in more money than the average left winger.
They also tend to get babied because the left will see someone break the rules and get punished and be all “Yeah, he deserved that”, but if a right winger gets held accountable, The entire flock goes full rabid and loses their shit with threats of violence, threats of bombings, protests, employee harassment, etc etc.
Yeah, they tend to be angry and dumb. The best kind of rubes.
SpaceMonkThey ALWAYS do. Communication exists. Do your part and shut them down and send them information for therapy. It’s hilarious. They are losers and will always be unless they get help. There is no intolerance except for the intolerant racists!
I believe this is not a feature of Threads itself but of any new social media app or fediverse instance. Nazis are looking for places to spread.
Dead heads flocking to a dead platform.
Fuck all nazi scum
Evil only has to win once or twice to succeed. Good has to win every time. In other words, evil will always try to worm its way into new things, and good will always have to yank them out.
Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.
(please don’t prove Lord Darkhelmet right)
Naturaly
Facebook and its properties have always been a safe haven for them.
Which is why no one should be federated with threads.
Just called my mom to tell her to stay away. Can’t risk her being caught up with it.
Every single platform has them. From anything centralized to decentralized.
And that’s why we fight them everywhere.