Also disgusting that people think that paying for an innocent animal to die is somehow capitalisms fault

You telling me I should be butchering my own meat? Cuz I’d do it if I was allowed and had access to the tools and space to do it.

no. meat is murder watchdominion.org

I disagree.

how is it not wrong to needlessly kill someone innocent? refer here first before replying your answer is probably already addressed www.godfist.com/vegansidekick/guide.php

Someone or something?

Do you kill mosquitos that try to feed on you? Flys that contaminate your food? Mice that destroy your home?

I agree killing someone is wrong, even when they have committed a crime. The only time I think it’s acceptable is when it’s a life or death situation. But you’ll never convince me that it’s wrong to kill for food when that’s what the majority of animals do every single day.

Animals do kill each other a lot, does that mean that we are justified in copying this behaviour? The animals that kill eachother either have no means to survive otherwise or have no rational capabliity to deduce that its wrong, I cannot reason with a lion but I hope I can reason with you. As it happens lions also eat their young and forced intercourse is the norm in the animal kingdom, are we justified in copying these acts because it’s “natural” to do so? Furthermore even if we were to conclude that carnivores/omnivores are morally culpable for their killings how does that justify us killing cows, pigs and chickens that did nothing to harm us The actions of non-humans in the circumstances of non-humans have no bearing on the actions of humans in the circumstances of a modern human

Ugh I deleted that comment by mistake while editing it.

Let me ask you: Does the world currently have the ability to live 100% vegan? I’m not asking “will it ever be 100%” I am asking “can the entire populace live vegan?”

There are also major issues with your linked arguments. It seems to like to skirt around things with half truths. “Eggs are immoral because we kill the chickens” ignores the fact that many people have egg chickens, intending to just let them live and produce. There is no rule that says once a chicken stops producing it needs to be killed.

I’m not doing a deep dive. But when you are the one asking the questions, of course you’re going to have all the answers.

no not everyone can eat a plant based diet, but they can still avoid other animal products and testing

Plants are also living creatures, aren’t you just drawing the line a bit further, and acting like its the only true way?

Why is it ok to harvest, kill, eat plants and not animals?