RazgrizJul 6, 2023

The supposed "ethical" limitations are getting out of hand

https://lemmy.world/post/1104601

The supposed "ethical" limitations are getting out of hand - Lemmy.world

I was using Bing to create a list of countries to visit. Since I have been to the majority of the African nation on that list, I asked it to remove the african countries… It simply replied that it can’t do that due to how unethical it is to descriminate against people and yada yada yada. I explained my resoning, it apologized, and came back with the same exact list. I asked it to check the list as it didn’t remove the african countries, and the bot simply decided to end the conversation. No matter how many times I tried it would always experience a hiccup because of some ethical process in the bg messing up its answers. It’s really frustrating, I dunno if you guys feel the same. I really feel the bots became waaaay too tip-toey

Show threadbreadsmasherJul 6, 2023

You could potentially work around by stating specific places up front? As in

“Create a travel list of countries from europe, north america, south america?”

Show threadRazgrizJul 6, 2023

I asked for a list of countries that dont require a visa for my nationality, and listed all contients except for the one I reside in and Africa…

It still listed african countries. This time it didn’t end the conversation, but every single time I asked it to fix the list as politely as possible, it would still have at least one country from Africa. Eventually it woukd end the conversation.

I tried copy and pasting the list of countries in a new conversation, as to not have any context, and asked it to remove the african countries. No bueno.

I re-did the exercise for european countries, it still had a couole of european countries in there. But when pointed out, it removed them and provided a perfect list.

Shit’s confusing…

Show threadmarmo7adeJul 6, 2023
It’s not confusing at all. ChatGPT has been configured to operate within specific political bounds. Like the political discourse of the people who made it - the facts don’t matter.
Show threadNewNewAccountJul 6, 2023
Which political bounds are you referring to?
Show threadHellsadvocateJul 6, 2023
Probably moral guidelines that are left leaning. I've found that chatGPT 4 has very flexible morals whereas Claude+ does not. And Claude+ seems more likely to be a consumer facing AI compared to Bing which hardlines even the smallest nuance. While I disagree with OP I do think Bing is overly proactive in shutting down conversations and doesn't understand nuance or context.
Show threadfeedum_sneedsonJul 7, 2023
I imagine liberal rather than economically left.
Show threadHellsadvocateJul 7, 2023
Socially progressive. I think most conservatives want a socially regressive AI.
Show threadfeedum_sneedsonJul 7, 2023
I’m not sure. I’m not even sure what genuine social progress would look like anymore. I’m fairly sure it’s linked to material needs being met, rather than culture war bullshit (from either side of the aisle).
Show threadHardlightCereal
Social progress looks like a world where law enforcement applies the law equally to everyone, engages in restorative justice instead of punitive, where everyone complete freedom over their own body, mind, and relationships so long as it does not violate the rights of others, where immigration borders are a thing of the past, where disabilities are reasonably accommodated, where hate based on identity is gone, where slavery, human trafficking, and wage slavery are abolished, etc etc
Jul 7, 2023 at 8:45pmWeb
Show threadfeedum_sneedsonJul 8, 2023
Yeah, maybe.